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17 of 23 speakers in my studio and home theater systems are internally powered. My studio system is all Genelec and sounds very accurate. I know the best new concert and studio speakers are internally powered there are great technical reasons to design a speaker and an amp synergistically, this concept is much more important to sound quality than the vibration systems we often buy. How can an audiophile justify a vibration system of any sort with this in mind.
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@kota1 Really impressive, your commitment to acoustics. There is art in music playback rooms that is very personal and that is if you do have the means and the knowledge to design your system and acoustics how do you want it to sound? Studios used to have a dead end and live end rooms, many were adjustable depending on the kind of music, this was in studios and control rooms I’m not sure this is the norm anymore. If you can design your acoustics in your listening room how much RT-60 do you use (decay). It is a conundrum looking at it from the end user point of view, the recording engineer should put the right amount of room in the original recording based on the type of music but then you are listening in a room with a set amount of room reverb. This is where headphones win. If you make your room to dead just like in the studio dead rooms sound bad, room acoustics need to have a normal decay about 2 seconds and that is around where many vocal reverb settings end up. The pre delay on a reverb unit is most important it tells your mind how big the first reflection is, this is a total electronic trick to the mind. I could ramble on and on about how the entire industry has no really good science behind it. Acoustics is boring but perhaps the most important part of recording and listening. |
@donavabdear , there are equations for RT60 time that factor in the volume of your room. My RT60 is around .28 which is about right for a HT its size. As for the acoustics, I realized that swapping components around would be a money pit if I didn’t get the room right. I didn’t know if an Atmos setup needed a different approach than a studio or 2 CH (they don’t, but I didn’t know that at the time). After Marti and Wilfried’s feedback I did some research. This is a long video but I needed it. Around the :39 minute mark they discuss the best formula for calculating RT60 time. At :49 he discusses the core acoustic "recipe" I posted previously, and at 1:01:45 he talks about the end result being a "smooth and orderly sound field" and diagrams why this recipe works. I’ll check out your new pic, thanks for posting.
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@secretguy Please tell me more about why the OP is confused about powered speakers, I could give you 2 dozen incontrovertible design advantage for designing the driver for each amp synergistically without a crossover in between. Look at it this way audiophiles like myself have spent millions on sound equipment over the years why would anyone buy an expensive speaker and connect an amp to it that wasn’t designed for that speaker let alone driver in the speaker? Think of impedance mismatch, think of the fact that crossovers have to be designed with speaker level signals adding load, who knows how much, between the amp and the driver. Simple basic things like this show that audiophiles are sill buying such expensive systems with basic design flaws, at best they are playing darts. The note about vibration system was simply about how everyone should know active speakers are a superior design but there will always be vibration in the speaker cabinet although active speakers can have amps apart from the cabinet but then you have speaker cables and can’t use the perfect dampening effect of the amp connected to the driver giving better transient response and reliability. |
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