Marantz Ruby PM KI amp vs Accuphase e-480 or e-380


So... does the Marantz "economies of scale" trump here? Can they make just as good of luxury product for cheaper than the more "boutique" brand? Sound quality -wise, is the Ruby PM KI amp just as good or better (though without the features) as the Accuphase e380 or e480...?

My preference is detailed but perhaps on the warm side of neutral...

Could run either of ’em w a bluesound node going through the Ruby SACD player dac, so consider that the source(s).  Just consider that to be my inputs, into the Ruby and/or Accuphase amps, to control that point.  So the question is about the amps. 

And btw... I know there are plenty of other choices... but let's keep this discussion focused to my question at hand; I've heard all the arguments for all the other possible amps in this world, and I'm down to these two for the purposes of my question; I'm not interested in hearing about a bunch of other brands.

Another related thought, although it would likely void the warranty, if I bought an Accuphase, say the 480, in Japan ... could it be easily "rewired" to be American power (110/120) ? A high end repair shop ought be able to do that for a couple hundred bucks I’d think, or am I mistaken.

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I have my new Ruby connected to my older Pinnacle Baby Boomer powered subwoofer.  So far I have no issues whatsoever.  The Baby Boomer has left and right speaker level in lines and then lines back out to the speakers themselves.

I too was concerned at first about hooking up a sub to the Ruby because of the above quote, which is a strange one coming from a Marantz rep, but I have been assured by several other reputable sources that any such concerns are simply strange and wrong... Perhaps if one is hooking up a non-powered sub, there might be a legit concern of draw on the amp?  I don't know, but two reputable Ruby sales sources and both SVS and REL reps have told me there shouldn't be any worry at all. 

I guess if one is concerned, there are (too expensive) external crossovers available and also inexpensive speaker line to "RCA"-in converters as well...?  

As for external crossovers, though, imo it'd be best just to replace my sub w a more modern one that can be more fully controlled for a customized blend... think SVS.

The Pinnacle is a heck of a nice, tight sub in a compact form, dual 8" drivers facing opposite directions, sealed design, attractive finish.  I do wish my Pinnacle had a lower crossover so I could cross it at 40 instead of the 50 which is the lowest the Pinnacle offers.  50 is good with the Heresy IV speakers, but 45 or 40 would be better in my current room as the Heresy do a pretty good job down to 50.  40 or 35 would be better for my EPI speakers with Human parts which do an amazing tight articulate job down to about 45.  But a new SVS would have the advanced customization capability to blend close-enough to perfectly with either speakers, and based on the information that I have, hooking up via speaker level a sub to the Ruby should not be a problem at all.

I've had 2 REL subs linked to my Ruby's speaker binding posts for a year or so with no issues. Sounds wonderful. 

Also, I have played around with tons of amps on extended basis. This amp is an exceptional performer. It is a reference level piece that can compete and best stuff costing way more. 

Opening the box of the Ruby products is a treat.  The Japanese build quality is something to behold.  I think Ken should have added some bling to the cosmetics because it looks smooth and strong but could use a bit of flair. 

@jbhiller

good to see you post again... hope you are well this holiday season and enjoying the music 🎄

Thanks @jjss49 ! 

I took a summer hiatus from my hifi obsession, listing only once per week--which is rare.  I used the time to hit the woodshed and get my fingerstyle guitar skills back to where they should be. It saved me some component jumping costs! But I'm back.