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17 of 23 speakers in my studio and home theater systems are internally powered. My studio system is all Genelec and sounds very accurate. I know the best new concert and studio speakers are internally powered there are great technical reasons to design a speaker and an amp synergistically, this concept is much more important to sound quality than the vibration systems we often buy. How can an audiophile justify a vibration system of any sort with this in mind.

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@thyname I noticed your system photos seem to show no vinyl source??

 

 

He is likely creating a brand new username right now only to post my real name and threaten me with all kind of things. Sad creature. Here is the full list of his usernames:

 

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audioman58

How many active speakers have you auditioned in your own space?

No one in this thread has claimed that you can't get a great system with either passive or active. Given the SAME budget you will get better performance from an active setup. 

"I came up with a way of addressing this question. When people listen to one of my Debut speakers, they don’t ask, “I wonder what this would sound like if you used this SEAS tweeter or that Vifa woofer.” They just accept the choices I’ve made. In an active speaker, I’ve gone one step further in adding another component. But now I have all the benefits of an active design. So [they] just accept them. With passive speakers plus a single amplifier, I couldn’t have achieved that performance at that price.

Each amplifier is matched to the driver, and only has to operate over a limited frequency range. It’s operating into a simpler impedance, so it’s not going to have high-current demands. Also, the temporal characteristics of music change with frequency. High frequencies require very little average power, but have a lot of peaks. Bass requires much higher average power, but has far fewer peaks. You can match the amplifier to those characteristics as well."

Andrew Jones

 

audioman58

How many active speakers have you auditioned in your own space?

No one in this thread has claimed that you can't get a great system with either passive or active. Given the SAME budget you will get better performance from an active setup. 

Really?
At some lower budget level a passive can be cheaper and better.

@audioman58 , this also is a matter of taste, you like Bricasti amps, you should use them, you will be happy, NP.

For the $20K of a Bricasti and I could get the JBL M2 active speakers, would you consider those reference level?

If you wanted to use Bricasti amps, NP, just don’t buy the Crown amps they are usually packaged with, get the speaker,the external crossover/DSP and you have an active speaker driven by whatever amp you choose.

Don’t like JBL you can do the same thing with Bryston Actives, buy the speaker, the BAX crossover and BYO amp.

https://bryston.com/model-t-active/

 

 

@holmz it is possible I guess, but for a beer budget of $200 this is tough to beat. Look at all the controls on the back of it as well, you can tune it for your setup and no need to buy speaker cables saving more cash: