Advice for a new analog system

To consider:

1) Primary Control Kinea DD turnable and Gravity tonearm. All handmade in NL. Similar money

2) STST Motus IIDQ with Vertex or maybe Glanz tonearm. About half cost.

These both I work with, and love. Not on magazine covers but very good

Phono can depend on cart and system gain requirements. If low impedance cart ( under 5R ) than perfect for either current input phono  OR SUT plus tube phono. 

Most importantly have fun collecting records :)

One point everyone seems to forget-  do you have a stable place to put it?  It’s very annoying to have a Tt that flies off the rails if you look at it the wrong way. I suggest placing half a glass of water in the place(s) you’re thinking of putting it and walk around the room normally. If the water shakes a lot, find another place. 

@chayro great suggestion

I thank you all for your comments and suggestions, different points of view, all valid and very useful. Thank you for taking the time to share your experiences and advice, this allows me to investigate and discern, which makes this experience fabulous. I will continue to pay attention to the following comments. @solypsa I've actually started collecting the records and it feels good! thanks for your suggestions! @pindac Thanks!

@ftrot There is a minefield to get through, you are willing to part with serious funds.

Helping you to consider some of the things worth thinking about is the intention. You are a prime candidate to be coerced into a particular way of thinking as the retail side of this business can do that really well.

A 'mark' like yourself, with a need for knowledge with such a Budget, is in a precarious place.

This years Holiday has to be paid for, an individual like yourself, could supply the readies to charted a Superyacht.

My descriptions given are to help you get on route to the Short Cut of Single Investment for life. 

At present I will not recommend to you products, I will comment on products I have had direct experience with, or products I know where there is a potential to recieve a Trusted assessment as report from a user experience.

I am quite familiar with a Glanz MH 1200s used on a Direct Drive TT with a Miyajima Cart. The Arm certainly is not a device that creates a perception of being constrained in any way, it has a notable freedom and breathes life into the replays, it is in keeping with the Arm presentation I am interested in and is quite seaprated in it performance to arms I choose not to use any longer.

As an Ortofon Cart user on DD TT's, this Set Up wiith a Miyajima Cart' has a noticeable Body and a Strong Hint of Richness to my sensitivities, certainly not overbearing to my taste and certainly one that is an extremely attractive encounter.

Another with a want for a Richness in a presentation, might see this Cart' with having a leaner presentation. 'Richness is in the ear of the Beholder' each has their own threshold for what is bearable before it becomes unattractive.

@mulveling has proved to be good source to learn about how a Cart' . Their Broad Experience of Cart's in use, has enabled the sharing of Cart' models that can be identified with for the levels of Richness that can be detected.  

Additionally VAS NY Inc has a Facebook Page where there are Needle Drops presented in a video of the completed work they have done to Cartridges. Even though not ideal as a Audiophile Listen, there is enough on offer to determine where Richness is present or not as a result of a design for a Cart'.       

The STST Motus IIDQ has been referred to on another Thread and I have recently learned an individual based in Mainland Europe, who has possibly the most experience with Vinyl Replay Devices that I know off . This individual has been using a IIDQ since November 2022.

I am watching out for their updated reports on this TT's usage. Usually there is a period of use where a range of Arms and Cart's will be used along with the TT, it is then when there is great value to the assessments being made known. 

Whilst accumulating LP's if some are being sourced as used items, there are services supplying Used Vinyl that has been cleaned ultrasonically, in some cases in a Cleaning Machine that has a Multi $0000's purchase price. Having the best purified vinyl from the off set will bring a further satisfaction to a very good recorded used Album. 

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