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17 of 23 speakers in my studio and home theater systems are internally powered. My studio system is all Genelec and sounds very accurate. I know the best new concert and studio speakers are internally powered there are great technical reasons to design a speaker and an amp synergistically, this concept is much more important to sound quality than the vibration systems we often buy. How can an audiophile justify a vibration system of any sort with this in mind.

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@thespeakerdude

You need to back up the stuff you claim with something:

How would you listen for transparency? What does it sound like? Have you heard it before?

I can tell you EXACTLY how to listen for transparency, with your ears.

You have an invisible system, a mythical job, making fictional speakers. If I’m wrong post your creds. Otherwise start a new thread and title it, "Once upon a time.." so we all know its a fairytale going in OK?

I encourage my fellow members to stop feeding the troll unless he posts his creds.

@kota1 If I may answer for @thespeakerdude transparency is when you have a band setting up in the studio and before you start recording from the control room you walk into the studio and listen to each musician play their instrument to see how it sounds with your ears, and listen the guitar, bass, and drums. When you get back to the control room and put up some faders you have what the real sound is and if that sound is coming through the speakers in the control room. That is transparency and you usually never want it to sound like it did in the studio because you can make it sound so much better. A better description of transparency is recording Tom Cruse or Anthony Hopkins on a movie set, you better get their voices just like you were standing there in the movie or else they will have to loop the scene loose performance and sound quality. 

A lot of system/equipment distortions are amazingly easy to hear with a signal generator with variable frequency and level. We use these to check for driver distortion during the recone process. That would be a good place to start and being simple, easy for everyone to hear. It isn’t unusual to use one in a studio to check for speaker rub and buzz but also room/equipment/ furniture mechanical vibrations and resonances. 

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@thespeakerdude

It is very difficult to listen for transparency

For YOU

because our (replace our with @thespeakerdude ) detailed audio memory is so short that we have a very hard time comparing

clearly there are several people commenting on this topic who are far more knowledgeable and experienced than you are

Of course there is, otherwise I wouldn’t waste my time in this thread. The people I am gaining knowledge from have all posted their creds. You are making it up as you go along IMO.

I would suggest you lose the attitude

I wouldn’t have an attitude if you posted something besides a fantasy system from your made up job designing invisible speakers, PLEASE prove me wrong OK?

Everything I make claims about when posting I either link to evidence or it is based on my own system which I have posted. When I call out rudeness I respond in kind, your insults to @phusis are ridiculous as he has backed up his claims by posting his system. You are just dancing around spewing insults with nada to back it up besides a keyboard so I called out your nonsense.