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17 of 23 speakers in my studio and home theater systems are internally powered. My studio system is all Genelec and sounds very accurate. I know the best new concert and studio speakers are internally powered there are great technical reasons to design a speaker and an amp synergistically, this concept is much more important to sound quality than the vibration systems we often buy. How can an audiophile justify a vibration system of any sort with this in mind.

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@thespeakerdude 

Interesting that you start with accusation of a "snipe account" to frame your support of active speaker superiority.  Regarding requisite personal knowledge, not a single post in this thread provides verifiable technical bona fides, only opinions or recitation of personal system usage experience.

To follow your logic about fuel injection and electronic engine controls, indeed look where we are now - after decades of refinement.  Wonderful technology when it works. Repairs require expensive troubleshooting by trained mechanics at a high cost followed by expensive replacement parts.  In addition, alternatives to that situation are virtually non-existent.  Good model for audio to follow. 

@texbychoice 

 

Regarding requisite personal knowledge, not a single post in this thread provides verifiable technical bona fides, only opinions or recitation of personal system usage experience.

 

I strongly encourage you to point out exactly where anything I said is not supported either by current products in the market or current research into active speaker design.  Not one thing I have posted is an opinion. Everything I have posted is factually supported including advanced active speaker methods which I provided many of the more simple links available for people to read up on the topic not that many posts behind your own. You made 2 posts in 3 months, both negative against people with industry knowledge.

Carburettors are in constant need of adjustment, cleaning, and perform poorly across engine loading, temperature, and other environmental conditions and while being comparatively inefficient. While easy to repair, that repair rate is much higher all while experiencing a significantly inferior experience. You would be hard pressed to find a fuel injected outboard motor owner who wants to transition back to carbureted. They exist, but they are a minority.

The potential longevity of stereo equipment is at odds with the fully integrated active speaker implementation for a portion of the market. However, the potential for superior performance at a reduced system prices (speaker, amp, DAC, cables), means that reduced total potential life is balanced by lower cost of ownership and lower lost opportunity costs of tied up capital easily offsetting the lack of highly extended life. There is even the potential for entrepreneurs to offer new business models.

 

 

@kota1 ​​@thespeakerdude 
Thank you guys for your notes I know you are both correct acoustically about my speaker placement. I very much appreciate your thoughts even though I sorta already knew the answer. 

I don't understand the antagonistic people that want to jump up and criticize, hopefully that aspect of this forum will go away soon. I know both of your strengths and appreciate your notes. Thanks

@thespeakerdude

Everything I have posted is factually supported

No, you have posted opinions, the facts that would support your opinions are very vague. You make claims about your creds and have posted zilch, not even a pic of your system. I think I know why you are an expert on "snipe" accounts.

Shoving a bunch of links into a post and demanding people read them is ridiculous. Why not just post a subscription to AES?