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Powered ATC monitors rule the mixing/mastering world. I think most dudes are just attached to components as it’s ritualistic.

@thespeakerdude dude, you are full of broken bubbles tonight, oh well. Lol

donavabdear, do any of your Genelec speakers have the dynamic correctness and dynamic excitement and immediacy of a large properly designed fully horn loaded system with horn bass in the low 20s Hz range, DSP crossed over, speaker corrected, room corrected, phase and time corrected speaker system?

@kingharold —

We know the answer to the part of your post prior to “DSP crossed over …” That is, they remain unresponsive here because they’d have to give us an admission, but if pressed they will likely counter thar the traits pointed out by you on all-horns are unfit for domestic environments. To many an MFR it seems even their weaknesses have to be sold off as the opposite.

I won't speak for @donavabdear, but I will speak for myself that the question is essentially irrelevant and is begging an answer. Phase corrected is essential for any working speaker design, time corrected looks much better on a marketing sheet than providing verifiable listener benefits. And yes, I have personally done the testing. Dynamic correctness, dynamic excitement seem to be implying the same thing. How long can you play, and what effects of any concerning dynamic compression. Horn loading / compression drivers is not the only way to achieve this of course. Horns provide, properly designed, constant directivity, but using a standard woofer/mif-woofer and a wave guide tweeter provides similar benefits without the side effects of vertical directivity lobing which can cause unpleasant reflections off vertical surfaces, likely one of the reasons why some people "don't like horns".  I think we can agree that a real horn loaded speaker at 20Hz, even a tapped horn is rather enormous and outside the realistic realm for most people. To achieve true directivity at the frequency is just unrealistic and you are not going to avoid room modes. Velocity/position feedback eliminates power compression issues in subs, and cheap efficient amplification is plentiful. Just put in a bunch of power subs and be done with it.

@donavabdear already wrote he only has one sub for his Genelec system (maybe in a different thread, I lost track).  @donavabdear , I have to expect that is contributing to some of the difference. I would consider playing around with integrating your main subs the the Gens even as an experiment. That or play with the single sub near-field. Not sure why this came to mind, but someone asked what the best sound they could get for a $1000 was. I told them $500 headphones and near field sub for the emotional impact.