I have full range tower speakers with built in powered woofers And also have two subs and won't do any critical listening without my subs in the mix
I want more bass…
Superb pair L’Instrument large horn speakers with two 12” woofers in each speaker.
So how to get more bass? My PassLabs XA25 was too little, my Luxman M900u was too sweet, of course these are not party or club speakers but my guests who are not audiophiles (you know the one’s who ask what are those? I say tubes…) let’s call them the sound bar set!
These speakers are rated down to 18Hz can anyone suggest the best value amp that can deliver bass to these speakers take control and make them move? 98dB sensitive by the way…
Give me some used cheap but real good amps to try please. Exposure? Class A. Not my weak knee’d Bouyrrang A50 300B 😉
Even my D240 MKII Audio Research seem not to push them deep and strong enough for the sound bar set. Can’t imagine I need a subwoofer…
@pokey77 indeed, its a crazy hybrid mess! Marantz AVR1509 used as a pre/digital source... sometimes fed by a Pioneer LX800SE for SACD CD Bluray. |
Just walking around the room will tell you if you have nulls. You can use single frequencies. If they truly go that low holding your hand in front of the bass port you should feel plenty of air movement. Then bass traps and first reflection traps. I am not sure how those speakers are to be placed. I pointed my horns at my shoulders. There are lots of other things that improve bass, but this is room acoustics. |
Solid disagreement with most comments here. It's the amps. Did not read this closely at first. You have 2 12-inch woofers in each speaker. You need power and a lot. Pass amp seems well low. Better with the AudioResearch and the Luxman, but stilll clearly low. I have single 12-inch in each speaker and have over 500 W/ch available for peaks. Years ago I was at a live outdoor concert in Madison, WI and I asked about all the amps. He said usually not running that much power but need power for the peaks. Mine are not full range like yours so did add a sub which also eases the workload on the speakers. But yours are full range, subs are not needed. While could be the room, more likely you need power. Perhaps a Parasound or Bryston would work or if you could biamp, putting a sweet amp like Pass on top and a class AB or ClassD (ICE) on the bottom. Maybe buy where can get a trial period. But to me, this is clear, you need power, likely minimum 200W/ch, more likely 300W/ch. Again, this has to do with peak requirements, not likely hitting this most of the time. Highly likely these speakers can handle this much power but should always check the specs. Mine can handle like a 200W/ch continuous. Again, usually not doing this much power, though. If your speakers cannot handle this which is unlikely, then would have to get powered subs to get the bass you want. But again, yours are full range speakers, so I think you need lot of power to drive the 4 large woofers. One last note: amp not just reserves for peaks, but need high damping factor and slew rate, so amp can respond fast. Mine speakers are acoustic suspension; ported is easier to drive. |
A Class A 70/80 watt EAR 890 with a touch of bass heft will drive horn speakers incredibly well, especially in the bass. Substitute better footers (SR MigSx or Townshend Platform), excellent cabling and an SR purple fuse (not necessary as even a glass 4 amp fuse works great) and you will have SOTA amp for your speakers. |