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17 of 23 speakers in my studio and home theater systems are internally powered. My studio system is all Genelec and sounds very accurate. I know the best new concert and studio speakers are internally powered there are great technical reasons to design a speaker and an amp synergistically, this concept is much more important to sound quality than the vibration systems we often buy. How can an audiophile justify a vibration system of any sort with this in mind.

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@donavabdear 

How can an audiophile justify a vibration system of any sort with this in mind.

This is a great example of the silliness that audiophiles live under.

Given the budget you invested in your current setup most "audiophiles" as you describe them wouldn't have this many roadblocks. Don't take my word for it, go through the virtual system area and see, ask questions to the owners of the systems that you like.

I’m new to home stereo and I have you guys to pick your brains, if I started different threads I wouldn’t have learned near as much.

This is why I stand by my recommendation to use a professional system integrator. The way you have been posting all over the place it is clear you are new. Your system is very different than most members, including myself. I wouldn't do a mash up of a mix station and a home theater in one media room.  Can it be done? Sure, but you need to measure each MLP and dial in meticulously with equipment choices, speaker setup, and acoustic treatment. IF you find another member who already has a system like that wonderful. Otherwise, you are just going to be taking risks with your budget. Quite frankly spend what you like how you like but that isn't my idea of how to arrive at  good value.

I encourage you to stop by the thread I started on building budget systems that outperform. Then try visiting the thread about people that spend $100K on a system that underperforms. You don't want to be "that guy" that spent a lot, but didn't get a lot IMO. You are speeding in that direction from what I see in your recent posts with your collaborator cheering you on, LOL.

 

 

I would challenge you @kota1 to show an example of "cheerleading" into a rushed purchase other than your own posts.

 

You are speeding in that direction from what I see in your recent posts with your collaborator cheering you on, LOL.

@thespeakerdude 

Would love to help but the guy from Sonos just called and I'm getting ready for my interview LOL, 😂🤣😎

@kota1 I do tend to be a little disjointed sorry, I assure you I've spent many years in college studying the physics of sound as well as working as a sound engineer acoustical ,recording, mixing and production sound, I even did a little research of acoustics and water currents, it was kinda interesting to me but no one else and the math got very difficult very fast. The thing I do know about sound is how to capture it with microphones, the speaker is the opposite of a microphone applying reverse acoustic principles to microphone and speakers shows some simple truths.  The world of audiophiles is great and I've really enjoyed seeing intelligent people be so passionate about it. For the last few years I've been reading the magazines and following some forums as well as talking to a high end stereo shop owner and the conclusion I've come up with so far is the audiophile community is really ran by the marketing of the magazines. Psychology in the perception of equipment and sound quality is much stronger than many are willing to admit. The mythology in the audiophile world is embarrassing. Imaging the huge amount of vibration the amplifier must go through living on the inside of the speaker cabinet at a loud rock concert and imagine a $25k equipment rack stating it helps the musicality of the song. 

It is a tough argument stating that equipment shouldn't be made for each other, especially the amp and speakers, the DAC and the streamer, the speaker position and the room geometry. I don't even have an option of buying a first rate system that is made for each other (other than the Steinway Lyngdorf). With what you know about powered speakers and their clear advantages how can that be justified other than pure creed and pure conformist mindset of the audiophile community.