Discuss The Viv Lab Rigid Arm


I am trying to do my due diligence about this arm. I am just having a hard time getting my head around this idea of zero overhang and no offset. Does this arm really work the way it is reported to do?

neonknight

Your motivations in general are worthy, but your judgement of what is a scam and what is merely an alternative approach that has merits and demerits is poor in this instance, because your mind is closed. And by the way, your argumens against underhung tonearms, leaving aside the specifics of the Viv, are mostly about Euclidean geometry, not Newtonian physics.

mijostyn

Cleeds would be talking about me.

As a frustrated intellectual he is unable to discuss the relevant issues regarding this arm as he is unable to understand them. He is also unaware of and unable to understand my real motive

Ad hominem argument - the laziest of logical fallacies. You’re not fooling anyone here.

@racedoc 

The magnetic oil film helps to prevent any bouncing from the needle to start

resonances but as you know that oil is not compressible there is no floating at all.

Oil is not compressible but it will displace.  Is there any movement in the arm in a direction beyond the lateral and vertical?  

It has always been my thought that simply using TAE as the sole figure of merit in this comparison is flawed since there are many other aspects that can make a 5° TAE of a 'traditional' arm soincally different than the same error on the Viv.

Dave

 

 

What Dave just said about TAE, and what I was trying to say early on in this thread.

All I know is that the RS LABS RSA1 tonearm violates every “commandment” of modern design:

underhung

not firmly anchored to plinth

cartridge DEcoupled from arm wand

unipivot

pivot is elevated above both cartridge and counterweight

CW dangles in space, free to swing due to LP eccentricity

And yet it works. By comparison, the Viv makes much more overall sense. Raul makes a fair point about the Viv website. There are many questionable claims on that website. You should see the RS labs owners manual. It is laughable. But that does not have anything to do with the results.