Nearly all manufacturers do not advertise/exhibit their product measurements? Why?
After my Audio Science Review review forum, it became apparent that nearly the only way one can determine the measurements of an audio product is wait for a review on line or in a publication. Most equipment is never reviewed or is given a subjective analysis rather than a measurement oriented review. One would think that manufacturers used tests and measurements to design and construct their products.
Manufacturers routinely give the performance characteristics of their products as Specifications. Those are not test measurements.
I searched the Revel speaker site for measurements of any of their speakers and could not find any. Revels are universally lauded for their exceptional reviewed measurements. Lack of published manufacturer measurements is true for nearly every speaker manufacturer I've searched for on line, perhaps several hundred. Same is true for amps, pre-amps, DACs, transports, turntables, well you get the picture. Do they have something to hide? I doubt the good quality products have anything to hide but poor quality products do.
ASR prides itself in providing "true" measurements that will aid in purchase decisions. Why don't the manufacturers provide these measurements so that reviewers can test if they are truthful or not?
Then there are the cables and tweaks for which I suspect that there are inadequate tests available to measure sonically perceived differences but which objectivists believe don't exist or are "snake oil."
Well, please chime in if you have some illuminating thoughts on the subject.
I would have loved to see manufacturers measurements on my equipment and especially those that I rejected.
Of course you get to make that sort of demand on your website, but not here. No on A'gon is obligated to submit any proof upon your demand, nor do we need your permission to post to this site. |
The Water Horse: Legend of the Deep LOL The Water Horse has hatched from a new egg!! Or perhaps a life story?! From 0:44 onwards... the manufacturer, the dealer, the buyer, and the Water Horse! "there can be only one in the world at a time." Sounds about right!! Have a good laugh guys!!
@amir_asr Folks...If anything he becomes far too triggered by differences in viewpoints. Good God. This is the real world...where people may disagree about particular subject matter. How you construct your retorts is rather distasteful. Talking about heartburn, being emotional, fortune cookies, folklore, heaven, and even "darkness." Maybe AudioQuest named their cable - Mythical Creature after you! Writing about what audio manufacturers don’t do - such as them not using up to date audio measurement equipment is none of your business. How they produce audio electronics is up to the qualified, experienced, and degreed employees who work at these companies, not you. Same with the audio electronics from otherwise good companies that you constantly bash. Folks in pro audio, such as legends like Ray Staff and Steve Hoffman would run circles around you in terms of real technical audio knowledge...despite the fact that you are a large Water Horse. "You can have a big mouth, but don’t try to bite off more than you can chew. " - Above is what your fortune cookie says. You constantly trash-talk and it gets on people’s nerves. This is why you have been banned on so many different audio forums. Want me to share old-skool screen captures?! You do the same thing every single time...grow up and learn to be mature. Especially at your age. This proves that age alone is not an indicator of wisdom, emotional intelligence, or overall intellectual capacity. You are always trying to impose your personal beliefs and supposed expertise on audiophiles or anyone interested in the hobby...guess what?! Nobody really cares! Back to audio manufacturers - Do you run their companies? Do you make it possible for their employees to put food on the table by providing them an income? No. One thing you are incredibly good at is becoming a laughing stock on audio forums. You don’t welcome 3rd party valdiation of your testing; Yet I have seen posts on numerous forums where experts have proven your measurements were done incorrectly. Like Paul McGowan said, he wishes you would contribute to this hobby, rather than be a thorn on its side. So Water Horse, I summon you back to the waters..away from the land...leave audio enthusiasts, pro audio folks, and audiophiles alone. Your only fanbase are the minions on ASR. Eventually, they too shall become believers in listening as the ultimate test. What will you do then?! Water Horse says: BHAAAHHA !!! |
Of course he would be silenced if he is exposing the truth about high end audio. Do you realize the damage it would cause the industry if it were found that $100K amps and speakers were all scams?
No he is not. He is sharing objective data with the public and exposing the conspiracies going on within the industry. There will always be those that are in denial such as yourself but you can't deny the truth. If you think you are qualified to refute his claims you will need to provide your data which contradicts his findings.
Most are not qualified. The ASR group set high standards within the industry because nobody else will.
They have already been converted to the ASR school of thought. There is no going back once you find the truth. |
