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17 of 23 speakers in my studio and home theater systems are internally powered. My studio system is all Genelec and sounds very accurate. I know the best new concert and studio speakers are internally powered there are great technical reasons to design a speaker and an amp synergistically, this concept is much more important to sound quality than the vibration systems we often buy. How can an audiophile justify a vibration system of any sort with this in mind.

donavabdear

Some music just lends itself to be better upmixed, when I am done with the club and want to chill I can groove for hours with a mix like this amapiano music. You won’t get the same experience with two channel, you might like it, but not the same.

 

and if you like old school clubbing amusement parks, so many great songs in mixes like this one that I knew, but had forgotten about. Upmixed in immersive is better than AM radio back in the day. Like hearing them for the first time:

 

Well I can't say I ever heard that music in clubs back in the "old day".  Old school often seems to be what younger people think older people listened to, not what we actually did :-)   I liked that first mix by Takanome. The amapiano mix by DJRobbiez was not my style, too laid back. Not judging, just not what gets me going.

Unrelated to our topic, but clubs seem to be finally rediscovering the importance of good sound, not just loud. You could see a shift about 10 years ago. Back in the mid-late 80's, top DJ clubs would spend a fortune on their sound systems, not just going for loud, but going for really good sound, no matter where you were in the club.  As the 80's turned into the 90's, it stopped being about songs, and was just about the beat. Didn't need to have a good sound system, just needed lots of bass. As the 2000s shifted into the 2010s, that started to change again.

@donavabdear , every once in a while I get to hob knob with people with a lot more money than I have.  On the Aida speakers, I think you will love the rear firing speakers on some music, and hate it on others, and may dislike it when listening to surround material. Wild guess here, it may frustrate you that you cannot easily turn it off with a remote. Seems to be a knob adjust. As a professional who often will know how something "should sound", you may be more critical about an artificial presentation.

@kota1 Cables, if they are so important leave them out and go with powered speakers. What I don’t understand about cables are 2 things one is digital cables they carry signals that are 1s and 0s the wonderful thing about digital is that it’s very easy to handshake between a 1 or a 0 as opposed to an analog signal which needs to handshake in a completely variable way which is much more difficult. AC cables do not reservoir power and then let it out in a particular way, well capacitors do that not AC cables. How do AC cables help in-between molex and a fuse. This question is a little like if you put a fire hose in-between two garden hoses is it going to achieve a better quality squirt. AC wire in the house is usually Romex then moves to a wall connector then to your $10k AC cable then to the back of your amp then to a skinny fuse then more connectors then to perhaps a trace on a PC board or wires that go to a heavy metal transformer where the AC is changes again. Speakers cables are the same, I’ve never heard how inserting a very short and expensive piece of wire will help the signal when on either side of the wire is of much lower quality, how can inserting a cable change the output on the other end? What I meant when I said I want an amusement park I want my system to be memorable and special experience. Definitely not electronic dance music, I like many different kinds of music but opera and dance music is last no the list for me. Jazz is on top and luckily it maybe the easiest for speakers to play and the most well recorded genera of music.

@thespeakerdude I don’t think I answered you Yes I do want to use the new speakers in the 2 channel and in the home theater system. I sent my BHK preamp back to PS Audio today hope they can get rid of the noise. I hooked up my amps to the Lyngdorf processor and it was simply not as good.

OK with our view of powered speaker having obvious advantages one of which is a more simple signal flow, how can I justify a preamp making a system sound so much better, my BHK preamp (hybrid tube) really makes the output sound like it has a little bit of beautiful reverb on it, it simply sounds more pleasing and beautiful. But the signal path going through a preamp is often unnecessary and adds complexity, how can it make the overall sound better?

@donavabdear 

What I don’t understand about cables... 

Will never be learned in a chat room. You have all that education, pick a vendor that seems you can relate to, and start auditioning. Stick with what you use in the studio, they can't be that bad. Go back to the thread on Add-Power and post a question for @cohsystms , you will be happy you did.