Jeff Rowland Model 8 or Plinius SA 103


With B&W 801S3 which is the best combination, Jeff Rowland model 8 or Plinius SA103 ?
Thanks for helping.

nic10

While the Plinius is a good amp, it really is not in the same league IMO.
 

@daveyf That’s your opinion, but assuming you’ve never heard the SA103 it’s just an unfounded opinion and nothing more.  Keep in mind the Plinius is a pure Class A design, which I think the Model 8 is not so that’s a big difference.  Also, the Model 8 is anywhere from 25-30 years old, so unless it’s been serviced, re-capped, etc. good luck with that. 

@soix  I not only have heard the SA103, I had it in my system for a couple of months. Like I stated, it is a good amp, in my system the 8T is a lot better. BTW, the model 8 runs in pure class A up to 25 Watts/ch, and just so you know, Jeff is still servicing the amp, whereas if the Plinius has to be returned for service to….where?

@daveyf Well, that’s good in your system and for your tastes. Just saying you think the Rowland is better really means nothing. The 801s will clearly reach well past 25Wpc into Class A. What is your system? Do you have B&W 801s? If not, well, for what it’s worth. As for Plinius service…

https://pliniusrepairs.com/about.html

https://highendaudiorepair.com/plinius

Plinius has been around for a long time and is well supported.

@soix  Just like your taste runs towards the Plinius. Which also means nothing.;0)

@daveyf Fair point my friend. If the OP is looking for something warmer it’d seem the Rowland might be a better choice, but if he might like something refined but maybe with a little more detail up top he might like the 103. In the end, it’s all about personal tastes and system synergy, and all the OP can do is hear about the relative differences and hopefully will make the best choice. Frankly, in the end I think he’d be thrilled with either.  All we can do is try to help. Cheers!