Discuss The Viv Lab Rigid Arm

Theo, how’s your Verdier these days? Good to have you hanging on my every word.

Dear @intactaudio  : "" Maybe the distortion caused by this is inaudible to some people, but it is there and is audible to some of us. ""

That statement comes by @mijostyn  and I agree with.

Audible/inaudible depends basically on room/system accuracy levels and resolution levels not only your " ears ".

Could you detail your room/system and the LP tracks you are using for your listening tests?

Thank's in advance.

R.

@intactaudio As stated previously, I was out of this Thread.

Other Posts have caught my attention.

"Could you detail your room/system and the LP tracks you are using for your listening tests?"

"It is an interesting but extremely complicated and hard to fathom, not tonearm design but the psychology behind human hearing."

If submitting your decor' materials, specific room treatment materials, and positioning of structures within the room.

It will be a great help if the information can be supplied about whether there is a Window present and if it is observed from the listening position.

Can the Colour of your Curtains/Blinds be made known, and if these were pulled closed or remained open, as such a impact of color can have a real effect on the effect of Psycho Acoustics and could easily make your report contain a deficient content 🤣🤣  

Somebodies desperate to to win over this Overhung/Underhung thingy that is going on. The Hay Makers are now being thrown, desperate wild swings from the ones who have found themselves on the back foot once more.   

The two statements made above, should become/not become (I know my leaning), the new precedent being set, for a qualification required to be revealed, prior to all subjective appraisal being offered up.

The last qualification for a subjective evaluation having gravitas, that I recollect  as being made by one of the producers of a above statement. Was that there was a visitor who was a Orchestra Member? and the description offered of the visitors   appraisal and opinion, was to be taken as the proof of the perfectness of a system demonstration that took place. 

To cast doubt on the findings during the demonstration, the visitor was not even Blind Folded during periods of replay to be evaluated.

@intactaudio  : For an experienced " ears " gentleman as you that audible/inaudible always be served the best by a true high resolution system specially through its electronics/speakers 

I hope you are not using tubes down there that could " vanish " true high resolution 

I can think that the choosed LP tracks were the ones you know as the fingers of your hand and I have not doubt about but curiosity for the LP choosed tracks because some of them could be a test reference for me and maybe to other audiophiles. Thank's.

R.

Pindac, Speaking for myself only, and possibly for some others, I do not view this discussion as a debate where there could ever be a true "winner".  I champion the idea of an underhung tonearm as a novel idea that deserves some thought and attention. I have never heard a Viv Float, so I have no strong convictions about the performance of that particular product, but I have heard an RS Labs RS-A1 tonearm, because I own one.  The fact that it does so many things directly against convention (besides the fact it's underhung) and yet still sounds very good first started me thinking whether we should question some of our tonearm gospels.  And I am still at that point.