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Nearly all manufacturers do not advertise/exhibit their product measurements? Why?

After my Audio Science Review review forum, it became apparent that nearly the only way one can determine the measurements of an audio product is wait for a review on line or in a publication.  Most equipment is never reviewed or is given a subjective analysis rather than a measurement oriented review.  One would think that manufacturers used tests and measurements to design and construct their products. 

Manufacturers routinely give the performance characteristics of their products as Specifications.  Those are not test measurements.

I searched the Revel speaker site for measurements of any of their speakers and could not find any.  Revels are universally lauded for their exceptional reviewed measurements.  Lack of published manufacturer measurements is true for nearly every speaker manufacturer I've searched for on line, perhaps several hundred.   Same is true for amps, pre-amps, DACs, transports, turntables, well you get the picture.  Do they have something to hide?   I doubt the good quality products have anything to hide but poor quality products do.  

ASR prides itself in providing "true" measurements that will aid in purchase decisions.   Why don't the manufacturers provide these measurements so that reviewers can test if they are truthful or not?

Then there are the cables and tweaks for which I suspect that there are inadequate tests available to measure sonically perceived differences but which objectivists believe don't exist or are "snake oil."  

Well, please chime in if you have some illuminating thoughts on the subject.   

I would have loved to see manufacturers measurements on my equipment and especially those that I rejected.  

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mastering92
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@bigtwin 

I sent @amir_asr a message on here. Not sure if he saw it or had time to read it. No response yet.

Part of the message i wrote with the headline "Live and Let Live" - straight from the web: you should tolerate the opinions and behavior of others so that they will similarly tolerate your own. Makes sense, right?

I said to him: 

What often gets you trouble on virtually every forum (other than ASR) is you always wanting to be right, telling others they are wrong, or interjecting your beliefs upon others who are not interested. I have learned that "Live and Let Live" is a good way to go about conversing on forums. For example, I recently saw a post about an OP wanting to maybe buy a brand-i-don't-like product. I hate the brand and the low-quality etc. it's a toy to me. Not audio equipment for me. I didn't tell the OP that...because I know that perhaps they will like it. And I'd rather not interfere...

Not my money to spend. If someone else is happy with an audio product, then sure, i'm happy for them. Whatever.

 

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bigtwin

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@thyname WTF????

Fuck you too! Lowlife sad little creature

Frankly, I'm getting tired of all the rancor on this site. \

Well good. Go back to your master. Where you came from. Pathetic 

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@thespeakerdude 

What other measurement are you expecting?

Uhhhhh yours.... please post your FR along with your system 

Forget about it. He has no system. Zero. It’s so funny he now he pretends to be a speaker manufacturer. 
 

I have asked him the same exact question everytime during his previous 16-17 usernames. He will tell you nothing. Not even the name of one single piece of his imaginary “system”

 

mastering92
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Man, that is a meanspirited thing to say.  Are you this way in real life?  Someone disagrees with your audio views and you get personal this way?  

That aside, I am sure there are executives or managers with better credentials and notoriety than me.  I am however, proud of the accomplishments of my teams and my personal contributions to many of them.  Here are some examples:

1. Technologies developed in my team ship in billions of devices a year.  Not millions but billions. Every few weeks I run into specs of a device that has technology from my team in all manner of products and software.

2. Our video technology is mandatory in Blu-ray format and was responsible for advancement of competing standards to catch up to same.  Without our involvement, Blu-ray format would have only supported the ancient but expensive (see below) MPEG-2 video codec.

3. We worked hard to make the cost of your AV products lower.  While royalties for MPEG-2 video codec was $2.50 per device with no cap, we pushed and achieved cost of less than 50 cents with caps for advanced codecs such as H.264.

4. Speaker of H.264 and other ITU/MPEG standards, we chaired the development of them at those organizations.

5. I came to Microsoft as part of an acquisition of our start up where we significantly innovated in delivery of video on the Internet.  We managed to do this by inventing such as schemes as MBR: multibitrate Audio/video.  Every video you watch on the web today uses the same scheme as you see the quality go up and down based on your connection speed.

6. Technologies developed by my team have been recognized by no less than three Emmy awards.  The first two predate the Internet as we know it today but the last one is well documented (for advancements in delivery of video on the Internet).  Here is a picture of me holding the statue: 

😎

Sorry Amir. You helped me prove my point by providing more details! 

Am I like this in real life? Sometimes. Not always!

All of that would have still been possible without you leading it, or your team.

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