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17 of 23 speakers in my studio and home theater systems are internally powered. My studio system is all Genelec and sounds very accurate. I know the best new concert and studio speakers are internally powered there are great technical reasons to design a speaker and an amp synergistically, this concept is much more important to sound quality than the vibration systems we often buy. How can an audiophile justify a vibration system of any sort with this in mind.

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It's the beginning of the month and so I get a few new videos of a renowned pianists playing their Steinway pianos for the Spirio piano that I own. I played a new song on it and felt all the vibrations all over the piano, it was vibrating everywhere. The piano is a Steinway and Sons Spirio/R Model B 7 foot Grand, it is beautiful and flawless the craftsmanship is amazing the piano is sitting in its own round room with 24 ft inverted arch ceiling. I bought this piano new and it's been tuned by a professional several times. The sound is nothing like I've ever heard on any speaker the entire piano is radiating sound not just a driver divided up into frequencies. Speakers can be works of art but this piano is a real work of art made of wood not resin polymers and it is the only HiFi playback I've ever heard in my life.

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Danny Richie from GR Research has a channel worth checking out. Part fact, part tongue in cheek humor. If you liked that video he gas some where he breaks down $$$ speakers and you see the beautiful cabinets with $20 crossovers and you know where your money went, ouch. You should also check out his take on cables.

I think every digital component is subject to Moores law. That hammered home the brilliance of a $4000 SOA outboard crossover. Those speakers will sound the same in 20 years covered by their warranty. That digital crossover gets software updates as long as they keep dropping. Every time you change rooms, change amps, or change dacs you can realign the individual drivers perfectly. You can’t do that with a traditional crossover of any kind that is internal.

Danny's channel is part fact, part tongue in cheek, with more than a small helping of BS. The crossover he made for the SF is different not necessarily better. Some aspects of the response were smoothed but the off axis is worse. You will see it repeated from Toole, ASR, etc about the importance of a flat on axis response. In practice that axis is not the centerline of the speaker it is the line from the speaker towards the listener which may be off axis from the centerline.  Some speakers are a bit smoother off centerline and are designed for less toe in, not pointed directly at the listener.  Going from 11 parts to 6 suggests lower order crossover or removed notch filters. I would like to see the before and after distortion plots. There could have been a reason for the higher order.

Like most things in audio, crossovers are another area that audiophiles have some extreme and poorly justified phobias. That's makes marks for overly expensive parts of suspect (read as no) value. 

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Power genelecs in atmos action, what are you waiting for? Watch this: