Golden Sound used bogus measurements to try and cancel MQA, then another reviewer responded who wasn't even affilated with MQA. What happened was completely predictable, it sounded "very convincing" to him, bogus measurements and all:
I Am Tired of Bogus Measurements
My expensive shoes have measurements but it doesn’t matter, all I want to know is will they fit. My expensive new suit has measurements but it doesn’t matter, all I want to know is will my expensive new shoes match.
The people being misled by measruements aren’t being led my manufacturers, they are being misled by reviewers. Idiotic rankings of digital gear based on measurements outside the range of human hearing. Cancelling entire brands who put out features customers actually want as they sell to humans, not bats. The worst of these websites will rant about their own superior $$$ equipment but mot even one person will ever use speakers in a klippel matchine, they actually put them in a room! The horror. The cancelling of brands, the talking down to the customers, is bogus.
You need to measure what matters! Are the customers actually happy? Is the warranty honored? Most importantly is their an in home audition period?
I don’t need someone to tell me if I could or should like a product. My room is not a test bench, or a klippel machine. Who cares what the component measures by itself because unless its a clock radio I’ll never use it by itself, I have to interconnect it in a "system" with "high quality" cables, (as in all cables are not the same).
If you want to measure something measure how your personal system of curated components interact with your room. That’s it. The rest of the stuff you could forget because these days if a brand overpromises and under delivers they will be following a formula for losing money, an no company likes that.
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All of these bogus websites attempt to use click bait and label themselves as the "doorman" guarding the high quality club. When put under scrutiny they just move on to their next target using bogus measurements as "proof". In reality they are simply using measurements to promote their bogus opinions. |
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That is 4 strikes @kota1 , Hans Beekhuyzen is not an expert, I suspect he is not an expert on anything. That video does nothing to negate the work published by Golden Sound (which I came across when researching MQA a while back). If this is the best rebuttal to a very extensive test, that indicates to me that Golden Sound is probably right. You don't negate technical arguments with words, you negate them with technical arguments. As soon as Hans starts to call into question something as fundamental as Nyquist, you know he is highly unqualified to make any statement about the topic though he tries to recover by stating no one has proved him wrong. Not content to make himself look bad trying to call into question, Nyquist, he then starts talking about distortion and filters, claiming all filters make distortion. Marginally true, but also linear distortion, which we are much less sensitive too. Good thing or every speaker every made would sound horrible. Try comparing the linear distortion of a speaker to a DAC. Oh boy, that would be an eye opener for Hans! He then makes a statement that we should be using 192Khz, though no one seems to be even able to prove conclusively we need more than 44.1, but perhaps he is not aware of even the most basic things about DACs and ADCs that most of us working near the technology can pick up by osmosis. Maybe I am wrong, but I suspect Hans is not very technical. But all that aside, he makes the claim that most people prefer MQA to not using MQA. Funny story, but researching that is how I became more aware of Audiogon. I searched the web, and the most frequent comparison was Qobuz and Tidal. It was not overwhelming in Qobuz's favor, but significantly more preferred Qobuz in my non scientific internet review.
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I think Strike 5! For one, that was probably the worse wine/audio analogy ever made. I always picked my wines purely on the alcohol content, color and grape type, and not the 25 other major chemical compounds that contribute to taste. So we are on to two. Two two two .... I guarantee those two crossovers will not measure the same. Just by looking at it, I know the iron core inductor will be much lower resistance than the air core inductor that replaced it. Also, those enormous film capacitors will have different ESR at frequency also impacting the final response. Perhaps at a gross level they will be similar, but not in detail. The changes will be as substantial probably more than your worry about component tolerances. How else do I know this is not done by what I would consider a truly experienced professional? Start with the flat wire inductor. They look so high tech don’t they? I would almost want to use one just because they look good. Their reason for existence is a claim of reduced skin effect, even up to 100KHz. First, why do I care about the woofer part of the circuit at 100KHz. They claim less self heating due to space factor and winding density, but each wire layer is heavily insulated and the total surface area is less than a standard wire wound inductor meaning that in practice, a standard air core is superior thermally. I could go on about highly variable winding diameter, etc. but I think I said enough. I will finish with the itty Miflex capacitor next to the enormous Miflex capacitor. They are both +/-5%. What exactly is that small one supposed to do? It looks like it would be about 1/100th the value. Is that supposed to be a high frequency bypass? You will not find that on the crossovers of high end speakers for a reason.
Interesting sidebar: Do you know why audio film capacitors are always 250, 400, 630V even though audio signals are never anywhere near those levels?
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