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I Am Tired of Bogus Measurements

My expensive shoes have measurements but it doesn’t matter, all I want to know is will they fit. My expensive new suit has measurements but it doesn’t matter, all I want to know is will my expensive new shoes match.

The people being misled by measruements aren’t being led my manufacturers, they are being misled by reviewers. Idiotic rankings of digital gear based on measurements outside the range of human hearing. Cancelling entire brands who put out features customers actually want as they sell to humans, not bats. The worst of these websites will rant about their own superior $$$ equipment but mot even one person will ever use speakers in a klippel matchine, they actually put them in a room! The horror. The cancelling of brands, the talking down to the customers, is bogus.

You need to measure what matters! Are the customers actually happy? Is the warranty honored? Most importantly is their an in home audition period?
I don’t need someone to tell me if I could or should like a product. My room is not a test bench, or a klippel machine. Who cares what the component measures by itself because unless its a clock radio I’ll never use it by itself, I have to interconnect it in a "system" with "high quality" cables, (as in all cables are not the same).

If you want to measure something measure how your personal system of curated components interact with your room. That’s it. The rest of the stuff you could forget because these days if a brand overpromises and under delivers they will be following a formula for losing money, an no company likes that.

kota1
kota1 OP
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@texbychoice

A while back discovered an interview with the gentleman that developed the REW software.

REW is good, I find it a valuable software to help get room acoustics right. If you want to see my in room measurements you can check my virtual system. The measurements themselves are legit. I I told someone to buy something or send me a donation just for putting measurements out there it would be bogus.

Essentially, the industry standards regularly referenced by measurement purists were actually vague and open to interpretation by the user.

Not in acoustics, concert halls, theaters, and recoding studios have been very consistent with standards. See THIS LINK.

Those same measurements do not necessarily indicate a sound quality everyone will find acceptable.

+1

We all have different brains, ears, and preferences

I think anatomy is consistent, what we have is different tastes, equipment and listening conditions.

 

kota1 OP
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@thespeakerdude 

The important thing in any experiment is to document your process and measurement setup.

You have nothing to document except arguing, why bother? Did you buy those speakers from Consumer Reports yet? Post pics. 🤬

thespeakerdude
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If I posted 5 links / videos, and at least 2 of them are totally false/wrong, and the rest are at best highly questionable, then I would not be making disparaging remarks about others that have nothing to do what is being discussed.

 

Not in acoustics, concert halls, theaters, and recoding studios have been very consistent with standards. See THIS LINK.

The ASA standards are mainly around fundamental technology aspects of sound, as evidenced by the types of standards the publish:   https://asastandards.org/working-groups-portal/    The ANSI/CTA link I published for Consumer Speakers is more relevant for this discussion. The ANSI/CTA-2034 standard is 50 pages long, but still does not go into really deep detail on underlying measurement practices, but it is fair assumption the equipment is following ASA standards where applicable.

 

 

kota1 OP
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@thespeakerdude

If I posted 5 links

It doesn’t matter what you post, you have 0 credibility. You haven’t posted your system, your measurements, and all you do is argue.🤬

I would not be making disparaging remarks

When you don’t have a system and your only provable claim is arguing, this is the  type of remark you can make, STOP. If you want to get some creds post some type of proof. 🤔

The ASA standards

If you ARE a a member of the ASA please post your qualifications, otherwise please STOP this inane babbling already.🤪🤪🤪

 

thespeakerdude
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@kota1 I just like to keep you talking so you have enough time to change feet.

It is good that you have fooled yourself though. That is where most people start. Once you have fooled yourself, then you never need to learn anything new again and you feel quite justified, even proud of yourself for putting down others, especially those who know more and reveal the flaws in what you believe. It is why you resort almost 100% to insults of a personal nature and do not address the arguments presented.

Do you think @bigtwin , @yoyoyaya , @clearthinker and @westcoastaudiophile are impressed with you?

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