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I Am Tired of Bogus Measurements

My expensive shoes have measurements but it doesn’t matter, all I want to know is will they fit. My expensive new suit has measurements but it doesn’t matter, all I want to know is will my expensive new shoes match.

The people being misled by measruements aren’t being led my manufacturers, they are being misled by reviewers. Idiotic rankings of digital gear based on measurements outside the range of human hearing. Cancelling entire brands who put out features customers actually want as they sell to humans, not bats. The worst of these websites will rant about their own superior $$$ equipment but mot even one person will ever use speakers in a klippel matchine, they actually put them in a room! The horror. The cancelling of brands, the talking down to the customers, is bogus.

You need to measure what matters! Are the customers actually happy? Is the warranty honored? Most importantly is their an in home audition period?
I don’t need someone to tell me if I could or should like a product. My room is not a test bench, or a klippel machine. Who cares what the component measures by itself because unless its a clock radio I’ll never use it by itself, I have to interconnect it in a "system" with "high quality" cables, (as in all cables are not the same).

If you want to measure something measure how your personal system of curated components interact with your room. That’s it. The rest of the stuff you could forget because these days if a brand overpromises and under delivers they will be following a formula for losing money, an no company likes that.

kota1
thespeakerdude
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This paper on interconnect pathway measurements was published on AES

Strike 6. Can you point out the flaw in this paper?

 

It has been demonstrated that frequencies above the human threshold of hearing generate brain activity, so super tweeters with a decent source are indeed relevant.

This is cool, but I would not take this as a proof of much. From what I read, we cannot discriminate any ultrasonic frequencies, we can just detect presence of some. There have been a fair number of tests over the years of whether people could tell the difference of music recorded to 20KHz, and recorded to higher frequencies. No one can tell when the bandwidth is larger.

We don't have to agree on everything, or even anything, but keeping it respectful goes a long way. Thank you to those that are.

 

kota1 OP
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@thespeakerdude 

You have no bat, no ballpark, and no speakers. You aren't qualified to call anyone "out" except yourself. If you want to "play" please post your system and FR measurements.

Do you see why I say you always argue? You don't have any game, any credentials, any experience, any speakers, and any relevance. 

thespeakerdude
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I've been saying it all along.  You have test it in time domain.  The frequency domain in steady state response will not tell you much.

 

No you do not have to test in the time domain, for almost all tests. If the transient response is the same every time you apply that transient, which is true in most cases, then frequency domain analysis is totally accurate.  Even where you may have periodic effects which you may think will impact the transient, such as AC line noise, frequency domain is sufficient. Even for speakers where we have power compression, which could be considered a transient effect, the speed of power compression, a thermal effect, is below our hearing range, that frequency analysis is good enough. For speakers, the transient response is almost always plotted in tests.

 

 

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thyname
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kota1 OP

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@thespeakerdude

You have no bat, no ballpark, and no speakers. You aren’t qualified to call anyone "out" except yourself. If you want to "play" please post your system and FR measurements.

Do you see why I say you always argue? You don’t have any game, any credentials, any experience, any speakers, and any relevance.

Good luck with that. This human equivalent of computer malware will NEVER tell you ANY of his imaginary components of his imaginary system. He has none. Trust me on this. I asked him the same question every single one of his previous usernames. Full list below. You will get nothing. Guaranteed

 

And a speaker manufacturer now? 😂😂😂

 

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kota1 OP
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@thyname

Like I said, he has NO relevance. Thank you for noting, I hope more forum members are wise to that guys duplicity.

 

@andy2 , don't feed the troll, he will never, ever, stop arguing.🤪

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