I love reading stories about rap not being music and if Ray says it's not music why can't we all agree that it isn't music! How dare one calls it art! Don't ever again let me hear any of it, it should be outlawed!
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You simply cannot expect a bunch of white people to understand rap, which grew out of backlash against racism. Remember the Reagan administration? Or when the CIA knowingly introduced crack into Los Angeles? Those were the times rap was addressing. I wasn’t into Tupac, but even I understood what he spoke of. These were sad times, and the youth today understand the struggle the country faces. Ray Charles was from a generation when being black was a huge handicap. But what do I know I’m a jazz nut. |
@coltrane1 For someone who says, “what do I know, I’m a jazz nut,” you sure are quick to speak with a strong sense of authority on lots of things un-jazz. |
@tylermunns, not this black person. My first instrument was Cello, then bass, then sax, then piano, and now archtop guitar. I get it, not everyone can fit into a box. But in general, this thread is evidence of the fact that white people can’t be expected to get rap. Otherwise, this entire thread wouldn’t exist. |
Rap music crossed over to white audiences in the mid to late 80s. I'm thinking about the Beastie Boys, Aerosmith/Run DMC and Yo! MTV Raps. At that point young white males were the biggest consumers of rap. In many ways rap music has morphed and evolved well beyond its origins in the streets and clubs of the Bronx and Brooklyn to the point where its originating blackness is irrelevant. The Indian sub continent has a decades old history of rap music that is unique to Indian/Pakistan. The music was originally inspired by what came out of America, but its cultural significance is vastly different. |
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