Grimm MU1 Streamer - Really "The Best"?


I've recently become interested in the Grimm MU1.  While reviews of top end players from Innuos, Aurender and Antipodes and others are typically all very positive, the tone of the many pro reviews of the Grimm MU1 go far, far beyond, with some reviews resorting to using superlatives and gushing of positive system transformation and not being able to stop listening to material, etc..  HiFi Advice and Steve Huff (actually calls it "magic") have such reviews.

Given the delay in availability of the Innuos Pulsar which I'm told will be better than my current Zenith Mk3 + PhoenixUSB reclocker, I am interested in replacing my streaming setup with a one-box solution that includes a high-precision clock.  The new streamer will continue to feed my Gryphon Diablo 300's DAC module, which I have no interest in replacing.

I'm actually a fan of Innuos, after they improved the sound of my Zenith with firmware updates and after I added their PhoenixUSB reclocker. I appreciate this commitment to improving sound quality which is why I was so interested in the Pulsar.

The trigger for considering an upgrade is not for improved sound, but rather, to solve some issues I have with too many Audioquest power cords coiled and clumped together. I will get to lose one of them and one of my USB cords with a one-box streamer. I've noticed my sound is very sensitive to positioning of my AC cords and find I often need to re-adjust the PC feeding my amp to get proper sounding vocals at center stage.  One of my subs also seems to be picking up AC noise when the crossover is set above 60Hz. The second trigger is simply system simplification, removing one box.  All that said I don't really have any complaints regarding sound, and the PhoenixUSB reclocker truly did improve the sound of my Zenith.

While the Grimm MU1 has it's 4X upsampling up it's sleeve with reviewers absolutely glowing over this feature and it's extreme ability to separate tones to the left, right, front, and back far better than the rest, I don't see that Grimm has gone to any lengths with regard to power supply management in the way other brands do including Innuos. The MU1's ultra-simplistic interior doesn't bug me, but the lack of transformers and power management makes me wonder....

Are there any updates from folks who have directly compared the MU1 vs similarly classed streamers from the competition?  Did you find it to be as revelatory as the pro reviewers found it? And, how does it compare to other streamers with it's 4X upsampling disabled?  Does it sound like it suffers from it's lack of power management?  I do see that the clock should be very good...

 

 

nyev

@nyev 

Totally agreed. System synergy is everything. Period.

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Really enjoying following along on your OP.

@thyname, I meant I’m looking forward to trying the Network Acoustics cable in place of my current Audioquest Diamond cable which I find to be vastly superior to generic network cables, except in the case of vocals where I find the generic cable wins.  That’s why I am looking forward to trying something else other than my AQ cable :)

@nyev : thanks for explaining. I am sorry I misunderstood you. I follow this thread with great interest. Thanks for sharing 

@thyname , no worries. Will continue sharing; in return I receive great advice or inspiration, as with the recent case of the Muon Pro kit. I will wait a few weeks to go down that road as I am still getting to know the MU1 with the Tambaqui. This setup takes a lot more work as I mentioned with speaker positioning. Just when I think I have it as dialed in as it can be, I mark the floor and make the smallest adjustment, and sometimes it gets worse but I’m still finding some adjustments are still improving things. Managed to improve the focus yet again just a few hours ago by toeing in even more and bringing the speaker’s forward a few millimetres. Can’t recommend Herbie’s Audio Spike Decoupling Sliders enough. They provide an unreasonable boost in scale and separation AND they make speaker adjustments a cinch if you have hard floors. And these adjustments are tiny…. But yeah I have enough to deal with currently but the Muon, and fuses will be the next step after cables.

Thankfully I’ve managed to add these pieces without too much expense - the MU1 just prior to the significant price increase, and the Tambaqui I was able to purchase used for what I think was quite a good price.  And if it all works out (I think it will) I’ll get to eventually sell my three Innuos devices and a power cable and two USB cables.  Would actually like to keep both of the Phoenix devices in case I ever have a use for them, but can’t justify that.

Little late to the party but received a Grimm MU1 a couple days ago to demo. Quite honestly, I’m shocked by the transformation this unit makes to my system. System had NUC for Roon, then my Lumin T2 as my streamer into my Nagra tube dac. The Grimm eliminates the NUC and the Lumin and now I go straight into the Nagra with the Grimm. Using an AES connection.  
 

Pro’s:

  1. much wider soundstage and more “musical”
  2. wow factor improvement on bass especially at lower volumes
  3. midrange and vocals much clearer
  4. Hard to turn off my system. Listened for about 6 hours yesterday

Con’s:

      1.  A little slower than NUC getting to songs

      2.  Will probably end up spending more $ on audio….again