@kingharold Also here at AXPONA it is clear there is a world of BS that the marketeers feed to the people, some of the most expensive systems sounded horrible and it wasn't the rooms they were huge and sounded fine. There were million dollar systems that were so bad I wondered if they were a joke, really. One smaller system obviously had something wrong with it at about 2k it was probably 18db to hot clearly a problem. I mentioned it to one of the people who worked there and he said he knew but that's how the boss wanted it, so strange. There are companies taking advantage of audiophiles but I'm not going to gripe about it anymore because I'm turning over a new leaf. (I hope)
Speakers and amplifiers show audiophiles are confused.
An audiophile buys a pair of speakers for $50K or $100K then asks what amps make them sound best. That’s about as smart as marrying a girl without knowing her personality. What are the specs that will insure your expensive new speakers and amps will work optimality with each other? There’s got to be an app for that, well no there isn’t because there are too many variables and companies don’t present their specs in a standard ways. Why is it that speaker and amplifier manufactures don’t recommend specific amps for their speakers? Beyond power, impedance, and making your own crossovers how do you choose amplifiers to get all the potential out of your speakers?
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some of the most expensive systems sounded horrible and some of the less expensive systems can sound great. That is the thing I like about this hobby, the "hacks" where you can leverage your investment. Sitting on my porch yesterday with just an $800 pair of deftech active speakers (the W7) which are basically 8 inch cubes and having them sound HUGE because of the tri-polar design offering accurate sound that’s widely dispersed, in the worst conditions, a porch surrounded by picture windows is just fun. The speaker has an intelligent design that allows it to sound much more expensive in a terrible room, even streaming spotify. That just makes my day:
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@donavabdear I have been to AXPONA a few times, and I heard some expensive Focal speakers that sounded terrible the first time and very good the second time I heard them, so there are a number of factors that can cause this, not just the room or the equipment, but sometimes the people setting it up. |
@kota1 so I spoke to Dave an engineer from Bryson unfortunately they didn't have their powered systems here so we talked about powered speakers and active crossovers he fully agreed that's how high end systems should be designed. He interestedly said their system was more expensive to build and design the said the crossovers were $4k and many people thought that was to much, I got the impression that he didn't have high hopes for the future. He knew how it should go just as you and I would agree but that philosophy doesn't seem to be so popular now. I also spake to Bill who makes "Add Power" for quite a while, sorry my friend he is playing on the outskirts of science, maybe his device works but it's not for the reason he gave me, he was a very nice guy. |
Sounds like a good time, I understand Dave’s issue, there is always a dynamic between engineering and sales. Glad to hear he agrees that active is the best way to go. I would love to get a Bryston matched system of the Active Mini T’s and the Bryston SP4 processor which eliminates the need for the Bax-1 digital crossover. The video I saw of the Cabasse room was amazing, a small pair of active speakers that sounded HUGE and clear and less than $3K for everything. Glad you got to connect with Bill, I guess the outskirts must work for me, YMMV. I don’t see Nordost as a company that could be bamboozled and they bought Bill's last company, QRT. They must like the outskirts too: https://novo.press/nordost-qrt-power-products-review-part-1-of-3-qx-power-purifiers-qx4/ |
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