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Ethernet opinions

Hello everyone, I finally got my system setup. I had a few setbacks the past few months. My mom had lung cancer and passed away a month ago. It has been a journey getting my system set up which is part of the fun. I am running Pass Labs XP-12, pass 250.8, and Bricasti M3. My original plan was to run the Bricasti with a EERO mesh network since the modem is on the opposite end of the listening space. Needless to say the EERO mesh would not work and Roon could not see my M3. I was on the phone with Bricasti trouble shooting the issue. I removed my M3 from the system and double checked everything with it hard wired to the modem which worked. I was told I could really use any Ethernet for the most part as long as it’s cat 5 or 6. Well, I returned the EERO and got a 25 foot Ethernet cable from Best Buy for 10 dollars. The sound is much better then I was guessing running a 10 dollar cable, for me it’s deff a temp fix. Especially since I bought two audio quest vodka cables. I am using one of them now connecting the room nucleus to the modem at the moment. I have read a bit about blue Jean cables which seem to hold spec. I don’t see me buying a longer Audio quest vodka cable given the cost. In some ways I feel like I spent more then I should have on the Vodka cables at this point. Opinions please ?

 

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fredrik222
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@carlsbad2 It is not true to start with. 

Of course streaming is bit perfect, and on top of that it is not streaming from Qobuz, Tidal and others. It's a download. You can educate yourself on the Qobuz and Tidal support sites like I previously mentioned. 

So, again, you don't know what you are talking about. 

But I'll humor you. How is it not bit perfect given encryption, DRM, and the TCP/IP stack? 

And as a side note, here's where things break down, asking people who know nothing to explain, and they start the name calling when you debunk every single argument with facts. @audphile1  ring any bells?

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cleeds
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fredrik222

Of course streaming is bit perfect, and on top of that it is not streaming from Qobuz, Tidal and others. It's a download.

No. Streaming and downloading are  two different things. It's rather odd that you keep insisting they are the same.

... here's where things break down, asking people who know nothing to explain ...

Ad hominem.  It's a logical fallacy that those challenging you "know nothing."

shtr74sims OP
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How about everyone put in their top 3 cables they have found work well ? No fighting now…. 

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audphile1
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@shtr74sims here are my top picks from what I had tried…

1. Network Acoustics Eno Streaming System

2. Purist Audio Design CAT7 (I wouldn’t say it’s worse than Eno, just different but a good way)

3. Supra CAT8 with Telegartner connectors

4. Supra CAT8 with stock Supra ends

5. Amazon CAT8 is a really great cable for the money

 

Yellow and Blue ethernet cables work but they don’t sound as good as the ones on my list above.

fredrik222
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@cleeds i never said that they are the same thing. I said that “streaming” from Qobuz, Tidal and others are not true streaming. You download the song in its entirety, and then playback from a cache. That is why simply why everything that “improves” Ethernet just doesn’t, and cannot do. Even OP said that the manufacturer said it doesn’t do anything. if you don’t believe me, look at their support sites and you will see what they say for yourself.

No one “challenges”, they just put a bunch of garbage out there that is not true. And then you give them enough rope to hang themselves… it is very sad that this is the state of the industry.

 

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