Ethernet opinions

fredrik222

i never said that they are the same thing. I said that “streaming” from Qobuz, Tidal and others are not true streaming. You download the song in its entirety, and then playback from a cache ...

No, that is mistaken. "Streaming" and "downloading" are two different things. A entire song does not "download" before streaming begins. In fact, it does not "download" at all, unless you choose to purchase the track and download it. For some reason, you seem intent on conflating streaming and downloading. I’m not sure why, but your insistence only makes your "debate" sillier. Just because there is a cache (extremely common in computing, by the way) does not mean a "download" is underway.

@fredrik222 

To test your theory, press play on a new (not previously played or downloaded) Tidal/Qobuz track and then immediately disconnect your ethernet cable from your streamer. Then please report back.

@cleeds that is how the Qobuz and Tidal work, through song download. Streaming is a continues stream however, that is not what Qobuz and Tidal does.. Don’t blame me, and go check your  cache settings. What do you think a cache is for, just curious? 
 

@ghasley there is a difference there, DRM check needs to happen still. You would have to force the music offline to do that.

Tip of the week from Naim: ““Tip of the week: Does your music sometimes get stuck or randomly skips to the next track? The likely cause is a cache issue.
The Qobuz app stores songs in its internal cache when you stream them. Occasionally incompletely cached tracks don’t clear out automatically.”

https://community.naimaudio.com/t/top-tip-for-qobuz-users/15990
 

From Qobuz: 
https://help.qobuz.com/en/articles/10143-how-much-music-can-i-listen-to-and-manage-offline

“Regarding cached music - the music that gets stored on your application while you listen - you can decide how much space to allocate for this, or choose to deactivate this function entirely, in your app’s settings. Please note: it is not possible to deactivate the cache functionality on PC/Mac.”
 

and this is what I mean, you give people enough rope to hang themselves, and they just jump straight in neck first without doing any research.

@carlsbad2  ok, so they deleted my response to you. Of course streaming and downloads are bit perfect, or it wouldn’t play. Which, in the case when you have high packet loss in true stream, is why experience a drop out, not something like a faint radio station would introduce, noise. 
 

But go ahead and explain, how is tcp/ip not bit perfect?

@fredrik222 No one serious about their music quality uses the Qobuz/Tidal app and I have heard qualitative differences between ethernet cables. Now, STFU and finish cutting Carlsbad's lawn, Cleeds is waiting on you as well.