Ethernet opinions

@fredrik222 

You have not published your system so I can’t give you a link to your streamer of choice.

Fred, since you asked I use Grimm MU1 streamer-server/DCS Apex dac/Audio Note Jinro amp/Devore speaker setup at home. I have a Roon Nucleus+/Hifi Rose 150b/Sugden IA4 amp/Devore speaker setup at the office for background music.

Frederic, why do you even frequent Audiogon? You claim there is absolutely no difference between digital cables and yet most who experience the difference, good and bad, take your insistence and inflexibility as a clear mark of ignorance. Your repeated insistence only cements those opinions. 

@ghasley  there you go. Roon download per already posted link above. Hifi rose says in their support that you cannot turn off cache for Qobuz.

it invalidates the entire argument that cables or switches can make a difference. That is why it matters. If it isn’t a stream, how can a cable make a continuous improvement. Answer, it can’t. 

@fredrik222 

If it isn’t a stream, how can a cable make a continuous improvement. 

Frederik, you have me mixed up with someone else...I'm not trying to convince you of anything. I KNOW what I hear and I know that cable A sounds better than cable B and cable B sounds substantially better than a popular generic cable touted in this very thread. Given your deep dive into how all is cached and they are bit perfect.... then if they sound different from one another it must be the cable if all else is constant. With that said, you don't have to go to any trouble writing a reply because I can't think of anyone who wants your opinion here. Certainly not me.

@ghasley you jumped right in, neck first, and as predicted went to name calling.

the issue I have is when  people genuinely wants to learn are told a bunch of lies and then spend money they don’t have to. There is so much snake oil in this industry, and this is literally a binary thing, yet people want to attach analog properties to a digital protocol, and when proven wrong, the name calling starts. 

@fredrik222

I havent called you any names. Point to it please. I did make a sarcastic inference that your time might be better spent cutting the lawn...for which I am not in the least regretful.

The most important point you make is you seem to believe that someone asked you to protect them from something...if they did, it wasn’t me. I believe what I hear, the differences aren’t subtle and when they are, I say it. I’m not trying to sell anything or tout one method over another. That’s for the individual to decide. Many of us here have formed relationships and when we have experience with something and they ask, we chime in. Its the way a community works. If you don’t agree, cool, if you disagree, cool.

You seem to think that because you work in networking that it will change some minds. It might, just not mine. I was bullheaded and inflexible before I experienced it myself. In fact, I sold a successful IT company many years ago and understood digital prior to you reaching puberty. Ones and zeroes.....I sang from the same hymnal....until I experienced otherwise. There is literally nothing you can offer that will change my mind but dont take it personally. It isnt personal but if your sole purpose for being on Audiogon is to convert the masses to the cult of ASR then you are wasting your not so precious time.