Ethernet opinions


Hello everyone, I finally got my system setup. I had a few setbacks the past few months. My mom had lung cancer and passed away a month ago. It has been a journey getting my system set up which is part of the fun. I am running Pass Labs XP-12, pass 250.8, and Bricasti M3. My original plan was to run the Bricasti with a EERO mesh network since the modem is on the opposite end of the listening space. Needless to say the EERO mesh would not work and Roon could not see my M3. I was on the phone with Bricasti trouble shooting the issue. I removed my M3 from the system and double checked everything with it hard wired to the modem which worked. I was told I could really use any Ethernet for the most part as long as it’s cat 5 or 6. Well, I returned the EERO and got a 25 foot Ethernet cable from Best Buy for 10 dollars. The sound is much better then I was guessing running a 10 dollar cable, for me it’s deff a temp fix. Especially since I bought two audio quest vodka cables. I am using one of them now connecting the room nucleus to the modem at the moment. I have read a bit about blue Jean cables which seem to hold spec. I don’t see me buying a longer Audio quest vodka cable given the cost. In some ways I feel like I spent more then I should have on the Vodka cables at this point. Opinions please ?

 

shtr74sims

@ghasley you jumped right in, neck first, and as predicted went to name calling.

the issue I have is when  people genuinely wants to learn are told a bunch of lies and then spend money they don’t have to. There is so much snake oil in this industry, and this is literally a binary thing, yet people want to attach analog properties to a digital protocol, and when proven wrong, the name calling starts. 

@fredrik222

I havent called you any names. Point to it please. I did make a sarcastic inference that your time might be better spent cutting the lawn...for which I am not in the least regretful.

 

The most important point you make is you seem to believe that someone asked you to protect them from something...if they did, it wasn’t me. I believe what I hear, the differences aren’t subtle and when they are, I say it. I’m not trying to sell anything or tout one method over another. That’s for the individual to decide. Many of us here have formed relationships and when we have experience with something and they ask, we chime in. Its the way a community works. If you don’t agree, cool, if you disagree, cool.

 

You seem to think that because you work in networking that it will change some minds. It might, just not mine. I was bullheaded and inflexible before I experienced it myself. In fact, I sold a successful IT company many years ago and understood digital prior to you reaching puberty. Ones and zeroes.....I sang from the same hymnal....until I experienced otherwise. There is literally nothing you can offer that will change my mind but dont take it personally. It isnt personal but if your sole purpose for being on Audiogon is to convert the masses to the cult of ASR then you are wasting your not so precious time.

@ghasley  so you say without knowing anything about my experience, so who is inflexible now?

@fredrik222 I read your CV that you proudly posted a while back so I am aware that you are a computer and data networking expert. Of that I have no doubt. Not only do I not give a dog's bollocks, I find you arrogant and pushy with your knowledge. You know more about networking than I ever will and I know about what I enjoy listening to in my system than you ever will. Others feel the same way...you have few if any meaningful interactions here. Of course you are welcome to be the bird that continuously drops poo on every discussion if you like, I'm rather indifferent and others may or may not be.

 

The shelf life of pushing your expertise on others here as a defacto final arbiter on what other people hear in their systems and in their homes has reached the end of its relevance. 

 

fredrik222

... the issue I have is when  people genuinely wants to learn are told a bunch of lies and then spend money they don’t have to ...

So you've appointed yourself ... what, exactly? The arbiter of truth? A savior?

... Hifi rose says in their support that you cannot turn off cache for Qobuz ...

With apology to Tom Jones, That's Not Unusual.

If it isn’t a stream, how can a cable make a continuous improvement.

Qobuz is a streaming service. Downloads are a pay-as-you-go option, but many Qobuz users rarely if ever actually pay for downloads. They're happy to just stream along. You conflate streaming, caching, and downloading.