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Why Do Cables Matter?

To me, all you need is low L, C, and R. I run Mogami W3104 bi-wire from my McIntosh MAC7200 to my Martin Logan Theos. We all know that a chain is only as strong as its' weakest link - so I am honestly confused by all this cable discussion. 

What kind of wiring goes from the transistor or tube to the amplifier speaker binding post inside the amplifier? It is usually plain old 16 ga or 14 ga copper. Then we are supposed to install 5 - 10' or so of wallet-emptying, pipe-sized pure CU or AG with "special configurations" to the speaker terminals?

What kind of wiring is inside the speaker from the terminals to the crossover, and from the crossover to the drivers? Usually plain old 16 ga or 14 ga copper.

So you have "weak links" inside the amplifier, and inside the speaker, so why bother with mega expensive cabling between the two? It doesn't make logical sense to me. It makes more sense to match the quality of your speaker wires with the existing wires in the signal path [inside the amplifier and inside the speaker].

 

 

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rodman99999
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For those that will skip the first page: I'll hit the REPLAY button:

rodman99999

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       The adherents of the Naysayer Church will never accept that there exist a multitude of variables, when an accurate simulacrum of performers and their performance in a particular venue, is the desire/goal.

        If their result differs from that of others, the aspects that they can't discern CERTAINLY MUST BE the product of the others' imagination.

             Of this they are certain: it CAN'T be THEIR system or ears!

                                      Perish the thought!

A much more apropos view of the local, imaginary intelligence operative (et al):

                                           (SNORT of derision)

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@kinarow1 -

        Many upscale equipment designers do use better wire within their products*, or: offer such as an upgrade.

         Even companies that manufacture PC boards, take into account the dielectric constants, of the material used and their effects on signal speed, among other factors.

               *ie: David Manley (of VTL) was already using George Cardas' wire, internally, back in the Eighties.      Emerald Physics offers WireWorld, OCC internal wiring, as an option/upgrade.

         That second post is especially for the OP, who can't seem to grasp (or: is ignoring), not only that the more expensive/higher quality gear, already has addressed internal wiring, but facts, such as:  the lengths of internal wiring compared to those of interconnects, etc.

          How about: the internal wiring of most SS gear is virtually non-existent.

                                         SO MANY VARIABLES!
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rodman99999
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And:

     No one can tell you whether/how your system, room and/or ears will respond to some new addition.   There are simply too many variables.

     LIKEWISE: no one can possibly know whether a new addition (ie: some kind of disc, crystal, fuse, interconnect, speaker cable, etc)  will make a difference, in their system and room, with their media and to their ears, without trying them for themselves.   

     Some companies offer a 30 Day Satisfaction Guarantee, so- those that are actually interested, have absolutely nothing to lose, by trying (experimenting with) such.     

     Anyone that knows anything about the sciences, realizes that something like 96% of what makes up this universe, remains a mystery.       

     For centuries; humanity’s seen, heard, felt and otherwise witnessed phenomena, that none of the best minds could explain, UNTIL they developed a science or measurement, that could explain it.     

     The Naysayer Church wants you to trust their antiquated science (1800’s electrical theory) and faith-based, religious doctrine, BLINDLY ("Trust ME!"). 

     Theories have never proven or disproven anything.  It’s INVARIABLY testing and experimentation that proves or disproves theories/hypotheses.   

    IF you’re interested in the possibility of improving your system’s presentation, have a shred of confidence in your capacity for perceiving reality and trust your own senses: actually TRY whatever whets your aural appetite, FOR YOURSELF.         

                      The Naysayer Church HATES it, when THAT happens!  
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tonywinga
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Counterpoint:  Wires move.  If the current is high enough the movement is visible to the naked eye. 
Transducers have wire in them.  The wire affects the sound of the transducer. 
 

i don’t get this argumentation contrary to what is obvious.  
Meanwhile I’m jamming to the music.  My system sounds amazing. 

rodman99999
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@coralkong -1!   Go take a college physics course!

          To the local, OCD, imaginary, "intelligence" operative (snort of derision)-

           I have three years of college level Physics (Major) and Psychology (Minor).

                       What are your creds, out of curiosity?

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