Why Do Cables Matter?


To me, all you need is low L, C, and R. I run Mogami W3104 bi-wire from my McIntosh MAC7200 to my Martin Logan Theos. We all know that a chain is only as strong as its' weakest link - so I am honestly confused by all this cable discussion. 

What kind of wiring goes from the transistor or tube to the amplifier speaker binding post inside the amplifier? It is usually plain old 16 ga or 14 ga copper. Then we are supposed to install 5 - 10' or so of wallet-emptying, pipe-sized pure CU or AG with "special configurations" to the speaker terminals?

What kind of wiring is inside the speaker from the terminals to the crossover, and from the crossover to the drivers? Usually plain old 16 ga or 14 ga copper.

So you have "weak links" inside the amplifier, and inside the speaker, so why bother with mega expensive cabling between the two? It doesn't make logical sense to me. It makes more sense to match the quality of your speaker wires with the existing wires in the signal path [inside the amplifier and inside the speaker].

 

 

kinarow1

This is pretty simple. Two “rules”:

 

1) Buy only what you can afford

2) Buy what you prefer (after personal experience, listening for yourself)

 

But I have to say: whoever says a cheap box store $50 pair of speakers sounds just like a $50,000 pair of speakers, or some cheap headphones for 50 years ago… I want to have what you are smoking. Please share. It will save me a bunch of money (maybe for a super duper bike, which I obviously don’t ride 😉🤦‍♂️🤷‍♂️)

 Open any amp or speaker and tell me what kind of wires do they use to connect them with? Copper AWG

                         The usual ignorance (willful, or otherwise).

                                         A FIRST PAGE replay:

        Many upscale equipment designers do use better wire within their products*, or: offer such as an upgrade.

         Even companies that manufacture PC boards take into account the dielectric constants of the material used and their effects on signal speed, among other factors.

               *ie: David Manley (of VTL) was already using George Cardas' wire, internally, back in the Eighties.      Emerald Physics offers WireWorld, OCC internal wiring, as an option/upgrade.

 

    Then too: the typical SS component's total internal wiring can be measured in scant inches (copper AWG or not/if any at all*) and thus: inconsequential.

     The combined total, internal wiring of my PTP wired, Cary valve monoblocks = 16".

           *Many have all inputs, outputs and AC/power supply, attached directly to their PC boards.

@reimarc

Thank you for the inspiration.

but I would never spend more than a couple of $100 on them.

Wait till you hear better sounding interconnects. You might then gladly part with money to own that sound. ☺

If you ever decide to purchase expensive cables, buy second hand. I got my AQ Fire RCA cables for 1/4 of the original price.

 

I found this tutorial for a DIY interconnects using silver wires with interesting aircoil design geometry aimd to achieve low L and C.

TNT Aircoil MKII Interconnects

Product: TNT AirCoil mkII, no-compromise DIY interconnect cable
Manufacturer: not for sale, TNT-Audio DIY design
Manufacturing cost: between 100 and 250€
Reviewer: Piero Canova - TNT Italy
Reviewed: December, 2021

 

Tutorial for the building of TNT Aircoil MKII Interconnects

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How do they sound?

We have tested these cables in several systems and configurations. Tubes, solid state, single ended, balanced, lengths ranging from 70 cm to 2 meters: there was never any issue of compatibility. I cannot honestly say they were clearly better than every other cable they were compared with, but for sure, they weren’t inferior to the other cables and, in many cases, we are talking about cables that are very, very expensive and exclusive. Several times the owners of the systems asked me to make, for them, some cables to replace those they had. Overall they are excellent, but in my view, they excel in four aspects: bass frequencies, soundstage, time coherence and speed. In bass frequencies the increase of clarity is evident; thin solid cores remove the bloat generated by thick fat cables, clearly improving the quality of sound. Thin wires minimize time smear allowing a much better coherence across the entire frequency spectrum. Low capacity design and no screening means a cable that is super fast in responding to transients. Honestly, I don’t have a good explanation for the soundstage, but width and depth of the virtual stage are substantially increased where the system allows for it.