Did Amir Change Your Mind About Anything?


It’s easy to make snide remarks like “yes- I do the opposite of what he says.”  And in some respects I agree, but if you do that, this is just going to be taken down. So I’m asking a serious question. Has ASR actually changed your opinion on anything?  For me, I would say 2 things. I am a conservatory-trained musician and I do trust my ears. But ASR has reminded me to double check my opinions on a piece of gear to make sure I’m not imagining improvements. Not to get into double blind testing, but just to keep in mind that the brain can be fooled and make doubly sure that I’m hearing what I think I’m hearing. The second is power conditioning. I went from an expensive box back to my wiremold and I really don’t think I can hear a difference. I think that now that I understand the engineering behind AC use in an audio component, I am not convinced that power conditioning affects the component output. I think. 
So please resist the urge to pile on. I think this could be a worthwhile discussion if that’s possible anymore. I hope it is. 

chayro

@rtorchia

"Personally I would never buy anything that wasn’t on his recommended list"

Well there are Dacs on his recommended list that measure very well that sound likr crap and have really poor quality control. Yet he recommends them. Wow!
 

@amir_asr 

You said do we have further questions.
1) Why are you so rude?
2) Why do you throw people off your site for presenting contrary opinions?
3) I bought my Dac at a hifi shop by listening to 7 different ones through the same equipment, with the same music and I had no idea what brand I was listening to or what it cost. The dealer was happy to go back and forth. I purchased the one that sounded second best, (I could not afford the best when I found out what it cost. ) I can tell you that the Topping I listened to sounded like crap with female voices. So do not tell me like some of your minions post, that all well measuring Dacs sound the same.
4) When you recommend something and it later proves to have poor build quality, why do you not take some responsibility and post this? Do you not think it is unethical to leave the product with a recommended rating and not address the quality issue?
 

LOL @amir_asr thinks he is done and keeps getting asked why he is rude. Tbh, I appreciate him being willing to answer people but he is shooting himself in the foot. I am a consistent contributor to ASR, which is how I found this. I will say it gives me a lot of hesitancy to give a website the censors speech because someone uses his website to generate interest in their side of the conversation. Shutting down a thread shoots you in the foot. You also claim it doesn't make you any money and you don't do it for the cash so why care if someone benefits from the traffic. The topic of audio integrity is still being talked about. 

Everyone is acting petulant here. Erin in old posts sounds not so nice, Amir isn't nice and he basically admits to being a d!#k. AJ from Soundfield sounds petty too. Makes me want to support none of these fools and enjoy the music on a system I find at Best Buy. 

" I will say it gives me a lot of hesitancy to give a website the censors speech because someone uses his website to generate interest in their side of the conversation."

Nothing Erin does is in conflict with ASR.  Indeed, his measurements are patterned after mine and using exactly the same measurement gear.  The only conflict as I mentioned was his desire to make money and get subscribers from ASR traffic.  No site owner will let him do this.  

"I will say it gives me a lot of hesitancy to give a website the censors speech because someone uses his website to generate interest in their side of the conversation."

Oh please... I have had countless posts here deleted.  Heck entire threads with them in it have vanished.  You don't see me crying and complaining about "censorship."  Forum management is hard and if the owners/admins see fit to delete something, that is that.  Don't go trying to milk that for fallacious arguments.

"You also claim it doesn't make you any money and you don't do it for the cash so why care if someone benefits from the traffic."

It is called equal treatment.  If we allow one person to commercialize our site, then every dealer and manufacture would want to do the same thing.  From our terms of service for people in the industry:

"Please have a signature identifying the name of your business. You can have a single link to your business but that is it. This link must not lead directly to any form of Advertising or Commercial Sponsorship related links. Same applies to any posts in the forum."

Erin's content is allowed on ASR anyway.  So your whole thesis is wrong.

"You said do we have further questions.
1) Why are you so rude?"

You are projecting.  Ton of insults are sent my way and I am calmly answering them.  It is folks like you who can't for a moment stay professional and focus on the topic of audio.

"2) Why do you throw people off your site for presenting contrary opinions?"

People disagree and argue with me to death on ASR.  We show extreme tolerance for this, to a fault.  It is only in extreme cases that we resort to banning people.

Note that showing up for battle by claiming you hear differences in audio cables and we must not listen to music and only read graphs, can get the door shown to you.  But not before you dig that hole very deep by creating empty and rehashed arguments.

Come forward with proper evidence of your claims and you will be more than welcome whether they agree with mine or not.

"3) I bought my Dac at a hifi shop by listening to 7 different ones through the same equipment, ..."

You don't say... Of course if you violate every rule in proper listening test you wind up with some random choice.  Maybe your fellow audiophiles care about that kind of story, but we don't.  We rely on what we can prove, not what we can imagine.  Come back when you pick that same selection in proper blind test.  Without it as I mentioned, you generated noise, not data.

"Indeed, his measurements are patterned after mine and using exactly the same measurement gear."

WRONG. He no longer uses what you use.
"violate every rule in proper listening test you wind up with some random choice."
What a load of rubbish. Can you not comprehend English? I had NO IDEA of the cost, the brand or whatever. The music and all other equipment was the same.
The only one who generates hot air is you.

You also still do not answer the question of morally recommending equipment of poor build quality. Maybe you can not?