Did Amir Change Your Mind About Anything?


It’s easy to make snide remarks like “yes- I do the opposite of what he says.”  And in some respects I agree, but if you do that, this is just going to be taken down. So I’m asking a serious question. Has ASR actually changed your opinion on anything?  For me, I would say 2 things. I am a conservatory-trained musician and I do trust my ears. But ASR has reminded me to double check my opinions on a piece of gear to make sure I’m not imagining improvements. Not to get into double blind testing, but just to keep in mind that the brain can be fooled and make doubly sure that I’m hearing what I think I’m hearing. The second is power conditioning. I went from an expensive box back to my wiremold and I really don’t think I can hear a difference. I think that now that I understand the engineering behind AC use in an audio component, I am not convinced that power conditioning affects the component output. I think. 
So please resist the urge to pile on. I think this could be a worthwhile discussion if that’s possible anymore. I hope it is. 

chayro

Per usual you not pick the one thing I didn’t mean literally. I didn’t mean brick and mortar in the sense you sell speakers out of a store front I meant more it’s a physical service and product you sell. Still I’m dubious you’ve never made money off it. You did buy your own admission say that you sell speakers from traffic you get on your website.
 

@amir_asr I’ve lost count at this point how many times you’ve avoided answering me. Last time I will ask. Why did you close down the thread for the top 5 if you don’t care about money? A thread you torpedoed. It was going fine until you said you “hate” clickbait titles which is a laughable label. 

@soundfield I’ve got an idea. You send Amir a set of speakers to measure and he submits to a listening test. Trade. 
 

 

@amir_asr, precisely.

As to Musicians, while they hearing does get trained in certain areas (e.g. detection of reflections in a room), they do no better than general public when it comes to matters related to audio fidelity. If they did better, then they would mostly be audiophiles which they decidedly are not. My piano teacher for example just gives me blank looks when I talk about anything related to audio fidelity! Musicians listen to music from a spot in the performance venue that is different than us as listeners anyway.

As first hand personal experience (son / musician / music lover) proves this to be factual. For I’ve tested his audio fidelity limitations and my conclusion always stands … Clearly one who enjoys better fidelity playback however, in the pursuit (insert various levels) which we / all strive for is of very little interest or concern. 

 

 You have no background in psychoacousts, measurements or even electronic design.

The moment you go above that level, then it becomes shades of gray which requires interpretation.  A skill that our soundfield friend does not remotely have.

This is laughable projection, everyone on internet can read your "skill" here: https://www.avsforum.com/threads/establishing-differences-by-the-10-volume-method.1136745/

It's comedy gold Amir:

amirm · #2 · Apr 7, 2009

The comparison was then conducted without knowing which input is which, sitting in front of the headphone amp and toggling back and forth. When necessary, I would go back and re-listen. Once I found which one sounded worse, I would then repeat the exercise by randomizing the inputs and seeing if I could still identify which one was worse. My success rate was 100% in the second test (i.e. could always verify that the first result was not by chance). This testing was repeated a number of times comparing the different sources against each other and the ML.

I did not level match anything. However, once I found one source was worse than the other, I would then turn up the volume to counter any effect there. Indeed, doing so would close the gap some but it never changed the outcome. Note that the elevated level clearly made that source sound louder than the other. So the advantage was put on the losing side.

Your projections are fun stuff ;-). You have never ever posted a blind test not administered by yourself. That's why I'm proposing you do one at PAF, administered by others, then posted on Youtube.

Instant classic 😄

 I’ve got an idea. You send Amir a set of speakers to measure and he submits to a listening test. Trade. 

Erin is a LOT closer, has Klippel NFS and is far more knowledgeable, especially since he has experienced my speakers himself and would thus not be utterly confused by the variable directivity and diffuse, delayed indirect radiation measurements, as Amir would. Amir is too much of an egomaniac to ask someone he knows who understands exactly what I'm doing, JJ..Amir developed Blue Screen as an MS middle manager. He has no clue about this stuff. See my link above.

Btw, I do full measurements myself and anyone who has bought my speakers has access if/when needed.