Did Amir Change Your Mind About Anything?


It’s easy to make snide remarks like “yes- I do the opposite of what he says.”  And in some respects I agree, but if you do that, this is just going to be taken down. So I’m asking a serious question. Has ASR actually changed your opinion on anything?  For me, I would say 2 things. I am a conservatory-trained musician and I do trust my ears. But ASR has reminded me to double check my opinions on a piece of gear to make sure I’m not imagining improvements. Not to get into double blind testing, but just to keep in mind that the brain can be fooled and make doubly sure that I’m hearing what I think I’m hearing. The second is power conditioning. I went from an expensive box back to my wiremold and I really don’t think I can hear a difference. I think that now that I understand the engineering behind AC use in an audio component, I am not convinced that power conditioning affects the component output. I think. 
So please resist the urge to pile on. I think this could be a worthwhile discussion if that’s possible anymore. I hope it is. 

chayro

Anyone that knows anything about the sciences, realizes that something like 96% of what makes up this universe, remains a mystery.     

You believe in that science but when it comes to audio, all of a sudden we know nothing.  But let me ask you this: do you worry about dark matter with respect to performance of your car?  Do you know dark energy is what pushes your car ahead instead of a know chemical reaction?  

If the answer is no, why on earth do you believe that putting a battery connected to one end of an audio cable makes it sound better?  I mean are you not at all moved that when I measure this Audioquest cable, that I can't even detect a difference down to many decimal places with with the battery on or off?

Seeing how these companies don't present a single listening test research showing efficacy is not a concern to you?  That any and all things must make a difference to somebody as to then keep the floodgates open to all of them?

Are you not concerned that some of these things do the opposite that is claimed?  Here is a Nordost flat cable noise immunity test:

Compare that to cheap generic cable (watch the top right graph):

This cable not only costs a lot more, it is also a pain in the neck to use as high-end cables are almost always are:

Why can't you leave any room for independent evaluation of products showing issues like these?  You don't take medication without such, why do you spend incredible amount of money on these audio tweaks this way?

Doesn't it make sense that it is pretty easy to make money by making a fancy looking cable and selling it for thousands of dollars?  Just like a magic trick, isn't reasonable that your senses can be fooled enough to make a sale?

The Naysayer Church wants you to trust their antiquated science (1800’s electrical theory) and faith-based, religious doctrine, BLINDLY ("Trust ME!"). 

What?  I thought it was your group that says "I trust my ear so you must trust what I say."  That is definition of asking someone to trust you blindly.  We on the other hand believe in bringing independent proof.  We do that with not only measurements but proper knowledge of electronic design and sciences around perception.  You want to throw all of that out ask us to believe what someone perceives through faulty listening tests.  This fits what you see above to the letter.

You really think engineers don't know what a wire does?  Or what a rack does for equipment performance?  That they need audiophiles to tell them there are differences that can't be explained?

    IF you’re interested in the possibility of improving your system’s presentation, have a shred of confidence in your capacity for perceiving reality and trust your own senses: actually TRY whatever whets your aural appetite, FOR YOURSELF.     

Trust your senses, plural, and you will definitely fall in the ditch of wasting money and effort instead of sitting back and enjoying music. 

What you should do is do what you preach: trust your ear and only your ear.  If any other senses are involved, then you are not assessing the sound of something.  Learn how to do a proper listening test that has only one variable (what is being tested) and do it to rule out chance (i.e. repeat a dozen times) and by all means you can trust your ears.  

Yes, there is a bit of work involved in that.  But I assure you it is less than attempting to convince people to abandon common sense and audio science/engineering. 

If you can't be bothered at all, then there are people like me who do the legwork for you and present you very useful information to base your audio purchases on. Huge number of your fellow audiophiles are doing exactly that and are better for it.  Think hard as to what they know that you don't.  Surely they know your method.

Theories have never proven or disproven anything. It’s INVARIABLY testing and experimentation that proves or disproves theories/hypotheses.

That’s right. Your theory is that this and that makes a difference in sound. We put the very same person in a listening test, while keeping their lying eyes out of the equation and all of a sudden that difference disappears like fart in the wind. What then happens is that you deny the results of these experiments. You much rather not know it seems. But again, people are realizing the gig is up here and adopting a much more rational method to judging audio gear. They are saving huge amount of money and getting much more performant systems to boot.

Yes, he did change my mind, about power cables.  He proved, using signal subtraction, that the signals generated by devices from different power cords are identical.  Any difference you heard is confirmation bias, as the signals feeding the amplifier are IDENTICAL

I’m disappointed nobody responded to this observation.  Do you guys agree that Amir is right about power cables?