Did Amir Change Your Mind About Anything?


It’s easy to make snide remarks like “yes- I do the opposite of what he says.”  And in some respects I agree, but if you do that, this is just going to be taken down. So I’m asking a serious question. Has ASR actually changed your opinion on anything?  For me, I would say 2 things. I am a conservatory-trained musician and I do trust my ears. But ASR has reminded me to double check my opinions on a piece of gear to make sure I’m not imagining improvements. Not to get into double blind testing, but just to keep in mind that the brain can be fooled and make doubly sure that I’m hearing what I think I’m hearing. The second is power conditioning. I went from an expensive box back to my wiremold and I really don’t think I can hear a difference. I think that now that I understand the engineering behind AC use in an audio component, I am not convinced that power conditioning affects the component output. I think. 
So please resist the urge to pile on. I think this could be a worthwhile discussion if that’s possible anymore. I hope it is. 

chayro

I see Amir has created a thread on ASR that there is a 25% off deal on Revel Be products.

https://www.audiosciencereview.com/forum/index.php?threads/revel-be-series-discounted-by-25.46219/

And what is one brand Amir’s company - Madrona Digital - sells? You guessed it! Revel products

I post that since membership has interest in the line and wants to know about the discount.  There was zero call to action to come buy anything from Madrona whose business is anything but selling retail ( we have no showroom, no stock, nothing).  I was also clear that people need to buy from their local dealers:

ta240 said:

I know they will definitely order them for me and maybe even with less overhead give me a good deal. But I like looking/listening to things in person before I buy.

I hope anyone who does that, proceeds and buys it from the same dealer. It would be quite improper to then go and buy it discounted online or whatever.

Occasionally someone contacts me to get Revel speakers for them at a discount.   Half the time they go and get it from someone else after that which is fine with me.  I provide this option for people but at no time advertise it or promote it on the forum.  If I really wanted to sell something, I would have put a link on top saying come here to buy this and that.  But you see none of that whatsoever.

These arguments have no legs anyway.  The last thing I want to do is to be an audio salesman.  So I suggest not projecting.  I am not you.  I am not motivated by a few dollars like this as to put in doubt the ethics of what I do.

@mapman ?

 

thyname

2,932 posts

 

@mapman : what is Amir selling in Audiogon? I fail to see any Amir’s items for sale on his profile. Zero items sold either. Do you care to elaborate on your statement ?

 

https://www.audiogon.com/users/amir_asr

Audiogon is a business that makes money by enabling sales.

Please explain to me: how does Audiogon make money out of this? Other from deflection of Audiogon users to ASR ( Amir’s own website Amir Science Review). Are you implying Amir is paying Audiogon (under the table) to post here promoting his site? 

 

 

The Null Tester was invented a long time ago by Ethan Winer. Not you.

What?  Null testers were "invented" before Ethan and I were born!  Neither he, nor I have remotely said about inventing one.  Ethan built a hardware null tester to show cables don't make an audible difference which I promoted on ASR as it was very good work. 

My test relies on an incredible software tool built by member pkane on ASR called Deltawave.  It works in digital domain so doesn't have noise or adjustment issues that Ethan's hardware null tester has.  For this reason, it can show a far more perfect null.  

But yes, both tests show that high-end cables don't make an audible difference.

@amir_asr between this and the 5128 discussion you must be drinking coffee and wearing a diaper.

You really can't take any criticism. You are spending so much time on this. And yes that post about only revel products does call your ethics into question. 

Show me where you promote other products you don't rep. Also you never answered why Erin's video for speakers was taken down but other top videos were not. 

But yes, both tests show that high-end cables don’t make an audible difference.

Sure! What low-end cables do YOU recommend?

It works in digital domain so doesn't have noise or adjustment issues that Ethan's hardware null tester has. 

Are you saying Ethan’s Null Tester device was flawed?