Did Amir Change Your Mind About Anything?


It’s easy to make snide remarks like “yes- I do the opposite of what he says.”  And in some respects I agree, but if you do that, this is just going to be taken down. So I’m asking a serious question. Has ASR actually changed your opinion on anything?  For me, I would say 2 things. I am a conservatory-trained musician and I do trust my ears. But ASR has reminded me to double check my opinions on a piece of gear to make sure I’m not imagining improvements. Not to get into double blind testing, but just to keep in mind that the brain can be fooled and make doubly sure that I’m hearing what I think I’m hearing. The second is power conditioning. I went from an expensive box back to my wiremold and I really don’t think I can hear a difference. I think that now that I understand the engineering behind AC use in an audio component, I am not convinced that power conditioning affects the component output. I think. 
So please resist the urge to pile on. I think this could be a worthwhile discussion if that’s possible anymore. I hope it is. 

chayro

@raysmtb1 he is not doing this for free. Laughable. He has a patreon. Every single review asks for donations. He doesn’t disclose how much the website makes but it’s surely not nothing. 

It is for "nothing."  Actually less than nothing. There is no business plan that would support what I am doing.  I just bought a $22,000 dummy load to emulate reactive loads for speaker testing.  You know how many donations it would take just to get that money back?  You didn't see me going and getting sponsorships from companies to do that as others do.  Members expressed interest in more tests, I agreed and wrote the check -- in a declining economy no less where our investments are worth much less than a year ago.  

When someone sends me gear to test it, I almost always pay to ship it back.  By your logic, I should keep coughing that up out of my pocket so I can't be accused of doing something for money.  

And let's say I didn't ask for donations.  Which one of the arguments in this thread would go away?  Answer is none.  Complainers will complain.  

Fact is that your fellow audiophiles are the ones suggested that I accept donations.  I thought about it and I agreed it would help expand the work, allowing me to test things that I would not otherwise test. 

If you think this is a money making venture, why don't you make an offer to buy it from me?  Remember, you would have to buy all the gear, learn to use them and produce near daily reviews.  And come to a place here to defend your work and personal reputation.  I would love to hand this off to someone else and go and enjoy my other hobbies. 

I have 2 that handle 330lbs and have done such testing for a while, both mono and stereo. You can't know any of this ensconced inside your little kingdom.

You only need to concern yourself about one thing, taking a controlled listening test in public.

PAF 2024

So no measurements are in our future?  Nor any documented case of above shuffler being used?  Your only interest is to duke it out with me at a show?  Is that right?  

Duke it out?? You're going to do a public listening test with your favorite speakers.

Both you and the Youtube audience should have lots of fun. Its listening to music Amir, not an octagon cage match. Have no fear.

@mahgister

Why did Amir got it wrong ?

"Why?" You haven’t covered the "what." You said people shouldn’t use measurements to assess fidelity of amplifiers. I showed you that your own expert witness in two occasions used tones and measurements. And that the disconnected sine waves in his paper has zero resemblance to any music. How come he can do it but you complain about me?

Answer is that sine waves are a subset of music. If an amplifier is high fidelity, it better ace the simple signals. If it manages to screw that up, why do you hang your hat on music?

Really, it is the holy grail audiophile claim that "something that measures bad sounds good." As to shout "science doesn’t matter." Well, for the millions of times this is stated, not one person has provided a proper listening test to prove this.

I actually think it is possible to show pathological cases where the above is true but folks are not even trying. So trusting they are that people will just believe the salesman/engineer and give them the ticket to produce less peformant amplifiers while charging so much more for them! It is such inverted logic and remarkable that it works with people.

Fortunately this is changing. We are making that change. We are taking some control of our destiny and driving toward proper, transparent audio gear that can be shown to be so.

Duke it out?? You're going to do a public listening test with your favorite speakers.

Both you and the Youtube audience should have lots of fun. Its listening to music Amir, not an octagon cage match. Have no fear.

What is your fear of posting measurements and results of controlled tests?  Do they not exist?  Are they not flattering?