Increase price for Vandersteens

Thanks Johnny. You really have all the Vandy's set up properly. it's appreciated by all of us who shop at your store. Too many who have shops don't set stuff up properly for some reason. I was blown away by how clean and detailed the Vandy line is now. Totally different from what I felt it used to be years ago. I'm LOVING my Treo's.

Johnny R ... if the new Vandies release bass out the back, how do they maintain time coherence?

I thought time coherency is the hallmark feature of Vandies ... all drivers responding at the same time, in one direction. While I get the nice ambient effect that might be achieved by a rear firing driver, seems like firing drivers in different directions might affect time coherence.

I'm so enamored with the importance of time coherence now, I just dropped a boodle on a DEQX PreMATE to improve the time coherency of my speakers.

Just askin'

Bruce

""all drivers responding at the same time, in one direction. While I get the nice ambient effect that might be achieved by a rear firing driver, seems like firing drivers in different directions might affect time coherence.""

Hey Bruce the 10 and 8 driver are in phase shooting in the same direction as each other. >()()>
Could it be you weren't thinking outside of the box?
Best JohnnyR

Thanks Johnny for clearing that up. I've listened to so many speakers, systems, amps, servers, DACS, cables....well, you all get the pic. Since I decided to sell off all my old stuff and start anew, I've learned so much. I too love what Richard does with his speakers, but I've heard plenty of others out there that sound pretty awesome in their own right. I don't get too crazy about just one way to do things. I'll ask and I want to know and learn, but in the end, I also just listen to music. What is making my emotions stir when I turn a rig on? We can use buzz words and try and explain things, but what works well together and what sounds the best for the money is most important to 80% of the real folks. There will always be 20% who buy flavor of the month, a new everything (used) every year or two and are never happy, or they spend as much money as they can on 'TOP REVIEWED' products (that some reviewer gets for free or dirt cheap) that cost 6 figures plus so they can show off.

There are a few lines of speakers that I could be VERY happy with for a long time. I purchased the Treo's and love them. I could have gone a few other routes, but didn't as Johnny helped me pic out a full system that sounded right with the speakers and then came to my house to set them up properly. There is something to be said about service and about making sure ones products sound their best. That's what you get with Vandy dealers and Richards choses them for that reason. Trust is a huge deal. I've yet to hear anyone listen to Vandys (any of the new line) set up properly, not at least like them a lot. Some folks will still go for a speaker with more high end 'sizzle', but they can't fault the Vandy's ability to convey the music the way it's supposed to. It's not just the phase and time issues, it's the speed of his mid driver that makes it sound like a panel at times.

We are all sensitive to specific things in listening. Is it taught? I think most of it really is, but thats ok as there are plenty of choices out there in all price ranges that will give you what you think about the most, but if you were to just sit and listen without looking at the system, a Vandy speaker with Ayre gear or even NAD gear with some good AQ cables will sound awfully tempting as long as you feed it good music.

Thanks Johnny R for the clarification. Problem is that I think inside the box. :(

As you know by now, I am a believer in speaker time coherence and the basic design objective of Vandy speakers. However, as we previously discussed, many rigs are plagued by crummy rooms. I sadly admit that my basement/sound room rings the Crummy Bell.

Fortunately, the DEQX PreMATE "tamed" the worst aspects of my room and brought a measure of time coherency to my speakers: better but not perfect.

Regards,

Bruce