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My first real (in my view) system was all Adcom gear cd, pre, and 200 watt power amp.  and Snell c2 mk2.After decades of trouble free use I bought a used Technics SUG 700 integrated, Marantz CD 6006, and Canton 9k reference.

The room 12x18, it's four corners from top to bottom plants, one side wall is open to another room, the speakers aim at a couch 8 ft away, the speakers are roughly 8 ft from each other, stuffed chairs are on the outside edge of each speaker, The Floor is wall to wall carpet. behind the couch ( my sitting pos) is a Glass covered  pastel roughly 3x3 ft.  Married so audio gear movement flexibility is zip nada,zero. and there is an upstairs bedroom I could turn into a great .... Ah the stuff of dreams.I digress.

Whats  missing is a bit more weight but in the total Hz range, just a bit stronger, deeper bigger dynamic expression but keeping it all tight.

The 9Ks vanish, their imaging, soundstage, depth, micro dynamics etc. all very good.  In all things but ultimate weight I'm a happy camper. Having said that I'm freaking going deaf, no seriously sadly I'm old, and I like my music at 65 to 75 dB range.

So any recommendations for improving either, sadly not both, the speakers or integrated up to $3000 would be appreciated. the amps 70 watts the speaker range recommendation 120 to 200 watts. So a bit of a miss match, but not at my listening level.

What I would like the Snells huskier voice and the Canton's everything else., of course but Better. 

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scott22
soix
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Soix thanks for the recommendation I did go and purchase the SVS sb 1000 pro and it has filled in the base though the lowest notes have no detail.

  Couple questions — 1) Did you use the SVS app to integrate the sub and 2) Is the SVS still in the return period?  The SB1000 Pro is, as you know, basically at the bottom of their range, and what you’re looking for may just require a better sub. If you can return the SVS I’d recommend looking at the Rhythmic F12 or, if it’s in budget, a JL Labs sub as they both kick it up a notch or two or three in performance.  REL may also be well worth considering given what you’re looking for.  So sorry if I steered you wrong.  I feel really bad that you’re still not “there.”

newbee
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Scott, Have you fiddled with the crossover controls? Both phase and crossover points? If not, I’d try that before I reached any conclusions. From looking at the manual I’d be interested in having a higher crossover point so more high frequencies pass and doing this I'd pay close attention to volume. FWIW, I’ve noted that many folks don’t realize that the sound of what you would consider to be ’bass’ includes higher frequencies and their presence is what defines bass as ’tight, having impact, etc.

soix
9,456 posts
 

+1 @newbee Very good points and certainly worth some experimentation if you haven’t already done so.

scott22 OP
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Markalarsen I hear you loud and clear I honestly believe that would be the most significant improvement to my system.

nonoise I agree with you the thing is those canton's are a fine speaker and I'd hate to see them go but it maybe time. I see your speakers are from France sadly no dealers are listed in the states.

Newbee Canton told me for the reference 9k to set the subs cross over at 60HZ. But why not futz with the crossover I think I will move it up to see how it sounds.

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