Have There Ever Been Fake Koetsu?


There are as few trusted grey market sellers like 2Juki. I have always wondered why he can sell a Koetsu at about 1/3 of what the US importer lists it at. Yes I understand the markup is pretty high for the US side, and that certainly accounts for all of it. 

This question is not about 2Juki, but rather a second hand Koetsu. There happens to be an attractively priced Jade Platinum on this site, and its from a long time member. It has caught my eye. 

 

But I do wonder if there are Koetsu out there floating around in the 2nd hand market that are not real...fakes. 

Any thoughts or experiences?

neonknight

@neonknight

Here’s my vintage Musashino Onyx, rebuilt by Koetsu a few years ago. Note the metal "shoe" on the side facing the record, with bulk of the glue used on other side. I’ve seen cleaner examples of this lol.

And here’s their diamond cantilever (also my pic). Very clean mount of diamond to diamond; minimal glue - but the bond to joint pipe is a bit more messy:

There was recently a Koetsu (Burma Jade) for sale that looked like diamond cantilever from afar but was really some 3rd party sapphire job that looked truly awful, even at much lower magnification.

@neonknight

For comparison, here is a typical Benz (or Van den hul etc) mounting. You can usually spot this from much lower magnification. Only the very tip of the diamond pokes out from the glue! I’ve seen examples where so little tip is exposed you can hardly believe it tracks, but it does - only a very very tiny fraction of the diamond tip is reading the groove! Also my pic:

Agree with @mulveling.  His pics look like the photos from the Koetsu website as well. http://www.koetsuaudio.com/rebuild

My well used RSP is in Japan getting rebuilt at the moment. 

So a quality 3rd party service provider like Expert Stylus is unable to retain the sole plate?