Ethernet connection for best sound quality

Second, I’ll put an Innuos Statement (or any Innuos streamer for that matter) up against the Raspberry Pi you use in your system 7 days a week and twice on Sunday.

I would too because I bet in a blind listening test you’d be surprised at the results.

The reason why companies sell overpriced streamers is because people don’t know any better. I don’t think the average audiophile realizes that these multi-thousand dollar products are based on low-cost, low-powered hardware and freely available open source projects.

The flip side of the coin is that these products are advertised as having ’less noise’ yet there are no measurements to confirm that this is in fact the case. At least if you buy a Ferrari you know that you’re getting better performance (in certain respects) than a Camry because it’s been measured and tested.

The fact of the matter is that a great sounding streamer can be made from something as simple as a Raspberry Pi 4 which more than likely has more processing power and basically the same audio software stack as the $12k+ Innuos Statement.

toro3    I  have an OPPO UDP-205. Let me start from the beginning,,,,

2018 bought the 205 streamed through desktop (fans and all.)  Tidal I believe it was called premium at that time Via Cardas clear network cat 7 cable. from wall to computer then from computer soundcard Soundblaster X-fi Xtreme to 205 via Cardas Parsec coax Great selection of tracks from my favorite bands that weren't available from lp's cd's youtube. live selections so forth. I thought it sounded fine, I still do. But if I can get a higher quality sound I'll go for it.,I was just hoping for a direct connection from modem to the 205.via Ethernet cable. I plan on using a 1TB SSD via Cardas clear high speed internet usb cable once I have a collection.

I went from a streaming setup using a Mac Mini 2 with a wireless network connection to a Lumin U2 Mini using a wired network connection. I noticed a dramatic improvement in sound quality. It was absolutely worth the money. 

Lots of paths to streaming music.  Fewer paths to high end audio streaming.  I studied the options for a couple of years and tried various ways to stream- including using my laptop.  I have a CD Transport and DAC that sounds quite good and as satisfying as vinyl.  I can stream 44.1/16 now and it sounds the same as the CD to me.  Hi res streaming sounds even better and on par with hi res files stored on my streamer.  I qualify this by saying this is based on my hearing and the level of the rest of my audio gear.

Modem- bought my own- stopped using the ISP’s modem.  Added an iFi low noise power supply but didn’t noticed a difference directly.

Router- WiFi 6E router also with an iFi low noise power supply.  Can’t say that did much for the sound either but I feel better knowing the low noise power supplies are there.

[I am no longer using FMC’s in my chain from router to streamer]. Best bang for the buck, I found is to put a fiber optic link between the router and the streamer.  I had two FMC’s with 5V LPS’s and Finisar SFP’s (they insert into the FMC’s).

Bought an audio grade ethernet switch.  This replaced the fiber optic link.  This is the next level up in sound but dilutes the cost/performance ratio.  Also, thinking that the fiber optic link combined with the audio grade network switch would be even better- turns out it is not.

Silver plated ethernet cables.  These make a difference in the sound.  Don’t have to spend a lot- just need to be shielded and silver plated copper wire.  Silver wire might work too but I doubt it makes much of a difference.

Streamer- if you want high end audio get a streamer.  Sure, it is likely based on a NUC. My streamer has an expensive linear power supply.  Absolutely necessary for high end audio.  That is something you don’t get using a PC.  I use a streamer for Roon running ROCK.  The processor has one job to do in a design for music streamer.  I also like the sound better just sending PCM to the DAC.  The less processing the streamer does the better in my system.  Let the DAC do most of the work.

The flip side of the coin is that these products are advertised as having ’less noise’ yet there are no measurements to confirm that this is in fact the case.

@yage Yeah, if there are no measurements you sure as hell can’t hear it.

The reason why companies sell overpriced streamers is because people don’t know any better. I don’t think the average audiophile realizes that these multi-thousand dollar products are based on low-cost, low-powered hardware and freely available open source projects.

Yeah, you’re right.  Clearly Innuos, Aurender, Lumin, Grimm, dCs, etc. are selling snake oil and all the people here who hear clear improvements are deluding themselves. Or there’s you. I’m with the multitude of others here. Enjoy yourself on your digital island where ears don’t matter.