If you were serious about sound you would...


If your audiophile quest is to get the best sound then buy the best equipment used to make the recordings originally. One of the few things nearly every audiophile agrees about is that you can't make the signal better than the original. So:

Solid State Logic 2 channels preamp 5k$
Meyer Sound Bluehorn powered speakers 2x 140K$
Pro Tools MTRX system 10k$
Mac Studio Computer 8k$
Total about 170k$ 
How is it possible to get better sound than the best recording studio gear? 


 

donavabdear

@donavabdear 

To answer your question: The reasons why we don't use the same equipment are many, including size, cost and esthetic considerations, but more importantly, what the studio and producer consider perfect is often at odds with the hearing preferences of the end user who may choose to tailor the sound with digital frequency adjustments or simple tone controls as well as their choice of either solid state, vacuum tube or class D amplification.

Humans have very specific tastes in everything, so it's hard for me to believe that this wouldn't have occurred to you.

I don’t believe in the deification of studio engineers, producers, or mastering technicians. Many are very good but plenty of recordings for whatever reason aren’t. Also, often live music is mixed badly so there’s that issue for your reference needs (sat through a disturbingly bad sounding otherwise major players jazz show a couple of years ago, and thought..."Did the live sound tech pass out?"). I recently bought a Schiit Loki Max for this exact reason (recordings of course, although years as a pro live sound mixer has been a guilty pleasure), and although it’s usually out of the mix, I can put the Max in the mix if I think I need to. Also, most here likely don’t have any pro studio mixing or live mixing experience, and to say you need to listen to playback on what the studio used is silly...you going to buy a huge mixing board and hook it up to dozens of effects boxes and run it through a shipping container for reverb with Pro Tools on board and then send the mix to a mastering lab? Nope, you’re not gonna do any of that. I just read the previous post so consider this one el redundo...maybe roxy54 and I are the same person...

@roxy54 The reason to use studio equipment is because it produces the original recording and you can't do better than that. The name of this discussion is "If you were serious about sound you would.." Because of that I don't care about hearing preferences of the end user the preferences of the producer musician and engineer are the important thing, tone controls no, a person who cares about sound puts money into the room not tone controls, vacuum tube or class D have nothing to do with this discussion. 

What you have to justify as an audiophile is on one hand you do know how you can get the most accurate sound and on the other hand is your ego, esthetic, look at my system factor, what else can it be. if you don't care about getting the most accurate sound then you are suiting your personal preferences, you don't care about the sound but you care about your preferences, the differences is very important, seeking accuracy in the sound is at least true and honoring to the work that the recording process and years of practice from the musician the personal preference branch is ego or something like that. Thanks for your response

@wolf_garcia I agree with you about live sound I’ve done it for many decades and it ruined live concerts mostly I only go to one place to listen to music, the Smith center in Las Vegas it sounds great and I only go when big jazz acts are there they can afford to hire great mixers. Of course you wouldn’t buy 100s of SSL preamps or a full board they sell 2 channel rack mount channels you don’t even need Pro Tools I only add Pro Tools because most every studio uses it to record. It surprisingly doesn’t take much to copy a top studio when you are only using stereo. The money is spent at the studio buying microphones, mixers and they spend a lot of money on the listening room, the speakers are usually not as expensive as good audiophile speakers but that isn’t the important thing.

If you looked through your favorite albums and looked at the most common studio they were recorded at, probably Capitol Records wouldn’t it would be smart to copy their playback equipment (they use Neve not SSL by the way) they mix analog and then record to Pro Tools at 192k. They have spent the money so you don’t have to. just copy the very good preamps top studios use and listen on top studio standard speakers someone mentioned JBLs, ya great this will get you accurate sound. If you want amazing wow sound put in 4 subs like I have and listen to the exhibition of sound but don’t say it’s audiophile or accurate. Hope that’s clear, I’m really sorry I haven’t been able to make my point very well, or this group is unwilling to accept it’s simplicity, I’m not sure.

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( "....It had gone too far when the McD Synthdrome had spread to the audiodefiled immunity...Nothing could be done to curtail the use of ultrasonic record cleaning fluids as a ’chaser’ for hallucinogens mixed into ’adult beverages’ in the paltry few ’b&m, pro-sound dealers’....

All one had to do to find this illicit activity was to follow to the source the unrestrained ’giggling’ into the back area of said store.

The sight of a ’defiled ProAudChaserChooser’ using the fluids in a bidet wash unit to ’anoint their vinyls’ was Not a sight to be put into the gay discplays in a storefront window...." *

* - Excerpt from the "Now We Are InSync’ed" Manifesto, marked up with pink "Barbaberbe’ highlighters and held up with pinheads."