Grace Level ll

Tomic, this is one situation where the item really does get better over time.  At least that was my experience after I retipped my Grace Ruby with the OCL stylus. At first it was a little too "clinical" sounding to my ears.  But it definitely warmed up after many hours of listening.

Great to hear of your experience @lewm  - i always enjoy what you have to contribute. Fascinating that in…LATE 2023 we are happy with the sonics of such products……

As you may glean from reading the earliest parts of this thread, I argued with Chakster that once you put a good OCL or other line contact stylus on a Ruby (meaning an F9 with a sapphire cantilever, which = Ruby), it begins to resemble the very rare derivatives that came later and which he owns or owned, at least hypothetically.  Chak did not agree, wherever he is now.

I did follow that line a bit but the in recent production Soundsmith stylus swayed me from searching out something more ancient…exotic. I am friends w guy who has been in some touch w Chak. i wish him well.

best to you

Good to know at least that Chakster is alive and not captive in some gulag for his political views.