Towers with built in subs vs separate subs


I debating on upgrading my paradigm founders 100f speakers to 120H speakers as they have built in subs and my space is limited. I would love to incorporateca a rel s510 but im concerned that i may not get my moneys worth out of it because placement is very limited.  I own rel ht1205 which i am very happy with for movies but i want something better for music. Plan is to remote my 1205 to the back of the room for movies and either trade up for the 120H paradigm with built in subs or add a s510 to my current paradigm 100 f's. 

Any thoughts?

 

sandrodg73

A built-in subwoofer will perform better for music. The texture and pace of bass notes will better match with the main speakers.

I don’t think this can be said so universally.  Often times in a given room the flexibility to place the subs where the bass sounds best in the context of a given room is extremely important and consequential in determining the final performance results.  If you do the proven “sub crawl” method to determine where subs/low bass work best in a room I highly doubt those locations will end up being within the confines of the front L/R speakers.  In short, you’re largely fighting room physics by requiring the subs/low bass to reside within the main speakers.

@ditusa ,  multiples simply aren't an option unless i stack them. I have 2 options as to placement...next to the R or next to the L.  My first choice would be to get a bad ass rel s series, but.....if placement is that important ,Im limited.  So why spend the $$

glennewdick 

Thats quite an endorsement saying the paradigm are better than the focal. 

Mr Soix,   i guess my question would be to you and others that think separate subs are better,  and i agree, they probably are, but can the room correction in an imperfect room with limited options as to placement get close to the results of doing a sub crawl with multiple placement options?