Step Up Transformer Question


Ok, so bear with me as this is new terrain for me. I was quite happy with how things were sounding and then I accidentally bumped the stylus of my Cadenza Black and snapped the cantilever clean off. I did some research and ultimately decided to have Steve at VAS at fix my cartridge but it was going to take a few weeks and there was going to be no way to play the Christmas vinyl that my wife loves so much. She told me to buy another cartridge so we could have Christmas records. I was stunned. I found a great deal on a Winfeld Ti on this site and pulled the trigger. I've got it on my table and it sounds amazing. 

After speaking with Steve though, I'm going to trade in my Cadenza and have him build me a wood body cartridge to have something different. It will also be 0.2mv output. I think I've got the 2nd arm situation sorted (gonna buy a Wand and a pod to mount it on) which leaves the phono pre. I love my Rogers PA-2 and it is switchable between MC and MM with 2 different inputs in the back. Finally got the SUT part. I've been looking and trying to figure things out. I spoke with Roger and he said the transformer built into the PA-2 is 1:10 and with that I can achieve 70 or so dB of gain. I did a lot of reading and looking and while I'm sure a 4k+ SUT is amazing that's just not where I'm at with all the other expenses at the moment. I saw the Bellari MT502 was a stereophole recommended component for many years and Amazon had one on sale for like $349 or something. Figured can't hurt to try it, it's Amazon so I can always return it. I plugged it in with some admittedly questionable interconnects I had lying around and when I put the phono stage k there was a bit more hum than I'm used to but I said let's have a listen. Holy shit. This little thing blew my mind. Better impact, tighter bass, more space around instruments so better staging, improved transients. This puts me in an interesting place. 

This is an extremely inexpensive piece and it has changed my system quite a bit. I think the little extra gain I get even at 1:12 brings the cartridge to life. My question is where do I go from here? Bob's makes the sky 30 which is switchable from 1:15 to 1:30 which I like because I can play with the gain tubes in my preamp and potentially go to a quieter 12au7 than the 12ax7 that's currently in there. Will that be a real improvement? Less hum? Had also considered ordering a Rothwell from jolly old England but can't find much on them. Thoughts? I'd like to keep this sub 1k or so for now. Maybe I'll save up for a big boy SUT later. 

rmdmoore

@elliottbnewcombjr the Bellari SUT I have now to play with has 1:30 as well and when I switch to that the hum does not go away. I really think it's cable related but can't prove that until I get more cables. 

@pindac you did mention the sculpture A prior. What turns ratio did you use for a 0.2mv cart?

@terry9 I've looked at that option a little bit. There are even some premade boxes to put SUTs in online. You can buy kits from lundahl's US importer and I've thought about that as well vs getting a Rothwell from the UK with decent lundahl units in it. 

Again, thanks everyone for all the input. Super helpful. 

@rmdmoore I would have to get it confirmed by the individual who loaned the SUT's for the Demo's but do believe the Sculpture A with a Copper Winding was 1:26 Ratio.

The nano crystalline core is not too commonly seen on audio, and it is this material, that certainly seems responsible for a proportion of the standout impression made.

Lundhal are offering this Core Type on some of their designs for a Tranx. 

    

@pindac I'm chatting with an eBay builder about building one with lundahl 1941s. The core is listed as amorphous. Is that what you're talking about? 

Not to make an already very confusing thread even more confusing, but Jensen make great  step up transformers, too, at a reasonable price.  And their staff of engineers are very knowledgeable and helpful to DIYers. Go for their top of the line, and you won't be sorry.

Amorphous is not Crystalline.

The following is a bit of other forum talk on the subject.

"According to Per Lundahl, writing by email, "Choice of core material is a question of taste. Our top-of-the-line MC transformers are available with either our uncut amorphous strip core (like the LL1931) or with a conventional mu-metal lamination core (like the LL1933). As it has turned out, the amorphous-core transformer is most popular, but the mu-metal lamination transformer is still preferred by some audiophiles. In THD ... and linearity measurements, the mu-metal lamination version outperforms the amorphous core version, but in listening tests, the amorphous core usually wins."

"I asked Per to explain the metallurgical differences between mu-metal, amorphous cobalt, and nanocrystalline transformer cores."

"In true amorphous material, there should not be any crystal structure. Atoms are randomly oriented, and there is no repeated structure such as you find in most solid metals. To achieve this, the melted metal is cooled so rapidly that atoms get stuck in their random positions. ... This very rapid cooling requirement is the reason why amorphous metal is only available as thin film, about 1 mil (0.025 mm) thick.

"To achieve nanocrystalline material, special amorphous iron is carefully heat treated at very controlled temperatures. In this process, very small [nano]crystals are formed."