Comparison of sonic qualities of some tonearms


I’m relatively new to the world of vinyl, listening seriously for probably only 2 years.  Of course, many big picture items (e.g. turntable, phono stage, cartridges) are discussed extensively on this forum, but I haven’t seen much discussion comparing different tonearms.  I would be interested to hear about different people’s experiences with different tonearms, mentioning the audible advantages and disadvantages of each tonearm, realizing that there is no perfect sound, although from what I read about others’ experiences, SAT tonearms may come closest, albeit at a very high price.  

drbond

Dear @drbond: I forgot that I owned the Koetsu tonearm ( really good tonearm. ), the Lustre GST-801 that along the Micro Seiki ( I owned. ) MAX maybe are near the best ever and owned too Ikeda tonearms.

I owned too LT: Denessen, Southern and ET and experienced the ones in the Rockport, Goldmund and Walker top turntables.

Nothing like first hand experiences . Btw, in my virtual Agon system you can see at least 12-14 different tonearms mounted in 3 TTs ( 10 at the same time ) each one with top cartridges.

 

R.

@drbond First my compliments on a great thread that hints at how difficult a pathway to truth can be in this crazy but addictive vinyl playback world….

I should have been more precise w my language…. I was referring to the Porter experiment reference earlier this thread….

I guess i somewhat fall into the mists of memory trap @lewm cites having worked many years at several high end shops while flunking in and out of rock bands and various degree granting institutions….. ( we fixed other dealers Rabco but sold nightmare but magic sounding Southers )…

I do have a two arm turntable  project underway…. i could probably cobble together  a quasi valid experiment…. by September and Pac Audio Fest…i’ve great ears coming to visit… serious contrubutors to this thread welcom, if you are around… check swords at the door

@drbond for a measure and listen focus on tonearm design, see the Korf blog / website… i have not heard it… but…. 

@rauliruegas I am down to…. just 4 tonearms…. somewhat reluctant to put that in print… in order of Lew “mist “ density : Dynavector DV-505, Infinity Black Widow, Ortofon RS 309 D and a Triplaner 7 mk2…. Cartridge addiction level requires a non disclosure agreement…. 

"The pivoted offset arm makes one huge compromise for the sake of simplicity and that is it is not tangential."  I would add there is a price to pay for the headshell offset, and that is very high skating force, because of the headshell offset angle.  And that has resulted in another compromise: poorly designed and implemented anti-skate devices (in an attempt to correct for the enhanced skating force) that are only partially or momentarily effective. 

Mijostyn, You have often written that magnetic AS is superior to the string and weight type of AS device, because of reduced friction, I guess associated with the string passing over a support structure.  But this has puzzled me, because if you adjust a string and weight for optimal effect, that process per se accounts for any frictional losses at the fulcum.  With the string and weight, I would guess the AS force is fairly constant over the surface of the LP.  Whereas, with a magnetic design, though I have never looked inside at how they are built, I would imagine that the AS force varies with the distance between the magnet(s) and the ferrous part that is attracted to the magnet, according to an equation where F is inversely proportional to the square of the distance between the two attractive elements. (It's complicated but the take home message is that the force would increase as the two elements of an AS corrector based on magnets approach each other.)  I don't honestly know how magnetic AS is built but I have wondered about that.