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XLR Pinouts on Thorens TD1601

Looking for technical data on the Thorens TD-1601 XLR pinouts, and also have questions about phase.

I use a Accuphase E-380 Integrated Amp where the XLR inputs use the "European" standard of: 1=GND 2=COLD 3=HOT. FYI: The so-called "American" standard is 1=GND 2=HOT 3=COLD.

I cannot find pinout diagram in the Thorens manual or elsewhere. The turntable was purchased from Thoman Music and shipped to me from Germany, if that makes a difference.

The connection passes through a Schitt Skoll Phono Preamp, XLR balanced on both sides, which uses "American" 1=GND, 2=HOT 3=COLD. NOTE: Different than the Accuphase Integrated.

  1. QUESTION: Can anyone tell me the XLR pinouts of the Thorens TD-1601?
  2. QUESTION: Two scenarios below:
  • A) If the TT uses the same European standard as the Accuphase Interated, is it OK to let it pass through the Schitt pre in that manner? Assume so, right?
  • B) If the TT uses the opposite standard as the Accuphase Integrated, I assume I would need to alter one end of both cables. Would it be best to alter them between the Thorens TT and the Schitt Pre OR between the Schitt Pre and the Accuphase Integrated? But not both, right?

I am hoping this thread does not devolve into a discussion of European vs American nomenclature, or why these differences came to be. I just want to hook up my Schitt correctly. 😁

Thanks.

gemoody
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imhififan
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I’d also like to add that if the turntable uses the "US" standard and you don’t want to use the phase button, there is more than one way to adjust the system polarity:

1. Swap the RED and GREEN, WHITE and BLUE leads on the phono cartridge.

2. Connect a XLR Phase Reverse Adapter in between the Schitt Pre and the Accuphase Integrated.

3. Rewire one end of the XLR cable by swapping pin 2 and 3. It doesn’t matter whether it is in between the Thorens TT and the Schitt Pre OR between the Schitt Pre and the Accuphase Integrated.

gemoody OP
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thanks @imhififan @lewm, this is helpful info, and what I was looking for.  In your last response, I assume ANY ONE of the three, and NOT ALL three, correct?

Can I use a multi-meter to test the polarity coming out of the Thorens via XLR?

thx, gem

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imhififan
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I assume ANY ONE of the three, and NOT ALL three, correct?

Yes, any one will do.

Can I use a multi-meter to test the polarity coming out of the Thorens via XLR?

Disconnect the cartridge from the tonearm leads, use an ohmmeter, a probe on the red lead of the tonearm, and a probe on pin 2 or pin 3 of the right channel XLR socket to see which one has continuity.

gemoody OP
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Thanks team.

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