If you have a nice system why do you really need room treatments?


Yeah you may need an absorption panel if your room is completely open, ie. No rug or furniture, ie just lonely single chair. But if your system can't cut it in any room then it's a system problem and you should be able to discern a good system regardless of the room.  Unless you put it on the roof of your apartment building but the Beatles seemed to have survived that effort

I think people go nuts with all this absorption acoustical room treatment stuff and it looks kind of awful.  Once in a while you see a really cool looking diffuser panel and I would definitely want one. But to have a system that works really well without any of the acoustical panel distractions is a wonderful thing.

emergingsoul

@emergingsoul

"I have a bass trap in the corner otherwise minimally treated room .

I’m a big fan of getting rid of reverbs so one absorption panel is on the far wall"

A week ago you mentioned plural of both

"Treatments consist of corner base traps extending up to the ceiling, a couple absorption panels throughout the room"

 

"’i’m a big fan of getting rid of reverbs so one absorption panel is on the far wall but so hard to determine what it really does in the scheme of everything else in the room"

On the surface it would seem that you should be able to hear the differences in the room as furnished with and without the panel(s)/traps{s)  Is there something that prevents that? Also, would you not be able to take measurements with your dirac with and without to gauge the impacts?

 

 

Why is everybody so dependent upon what dirac says? Adding an additional absorption panel in a 20 x 18 room that’s furnished is extremely hard to discern. Maybe Superman hearing would do it.

Maybe on the dirac curve they’ll be a slight change but in all fairness I think people go a bit neurotic when it comes to sound treating their rooms especially when they are furnished.

@emergingsoul

"Why is everybody so dependent upon what dirac says?"

Well, you stated this in a prior post hence the question I raised

"Using dirac, I did acoustical measurements and the original curve versus DSP were very similar. It got a bit smoother. ....Would love to know if other people test their rooms before and after doing acoustical panels and how the curve changes."

Care to explain, or simply deflect as ususal?

"Adding an additional absorption panel in a 20 x 18 room that’s furnished is extremely hard to discern. Maybe Superman hearing would do it."

Seriously?

"in all fairness I think people go a bit neurotic when it comes to sound treating their rooms especially when they are furnished."

But supposedly you have "Treatments consist of corner base traps extending up to the ceiling, a couple absorption panels throughout the room" Or , is it this version "I have a bass trap in the corner otherwise minimally treated room .I’m a big fan of getting rid of reverbs so one absorption panel is on the far wall"

 

 

 

 

 

 

This entire thread is a mess. OP doesn’t have treatment but does have it.  Why are people dependent on Dirac, by the way I use it too.  It’s all over the place.

I hardly feel that corner bass traps and very modest absorption panels in a furnished room is a serious effort to acoustically treat the room.

If the room was more open, and lots of rooms aren't, it would be helpful to put all kinds of panels in a room otherwise it would be an echo chamber. The best thing I have in the room is a very thick wool rug and the couch.  And other clutter that provides good diffuser relief although I wish I had a couple bookcases but I hate bookcases in a room. Everybody has bookcases and most people don't even read the books.

The point of the entire thread was to better understand whether there's a benefit in doing room treatments given a furnished room which already inherently does a lot of this.  And for those who still feel inclined to put acoustical treatments in a furnished room I'm not sure it would really be helpful and actually maybe harmful. Openess of a room is a wonderful thing as long as you don't screw it up with all kinds of acoustical stuff on the wall.