Upgrade from Revel 228be?


I am currently running Revel 228be's with a single Rythmik sub, and recently changed to all Pass electronics: XP27 phono-pre, XP32 line-pre, and X260.8 monos. My SQ is very good, and the Revels have few weaknesses, but I'm considering a step up to a more refined speaker with a more inert cabinet.

Are there any Revel 228be owners out there who have made a successful upgrade? My budget is $15k-$25k, used (likely). I listen to pretty much everything but the emphasis is on Blue Note jazz, fusion, Zappa. I like percussive, instrumental music, so I need something that can handle the thump.

On my list so far are Rockport Atria II, TAD E1tx, a Magico or Borresen possibly, etc.

Thoughts, suggestions? 

willyht

I upgraded from the 228be (I also use two subs) to a pair of JBL 4367s. I should note I liked Revel over a lot of other good brands and after many demos stuck with the Revel/sub combo before moving to the JBLs

 

I have a number of posts about the 4367s that you should be able to find under my profile or general search. In short they are much more dynamic. The 4367 is much more detailed in the bass and treble (about the same in the mids). When I first listened to the 4367 I thought there was a bit of horn coloration in the vocal range but doing more or less instant switching between the 228be and the 4367 that coloration is extremely small and mid quality is about the same. but the other improvements were drastic.

they look like big ugly boxes and are but stereophile’s measurements show a pretty quiet box. For measurements I would look at Erin’s Audio Corner though. Stereophile’s near field measurement artificially boost the bass IMO. I used subs with both speakers crossed at 60hz. The 4367 has a lot more detail from 60hz-250ish-hz where the Revels woofers play.

the one place the 4367 loses out is sound stage width and depth. The 4367 dispersion is pretty narrow and has a lot less room interaction. The sound is almost all in front of the speaker too (part of why they are so dynamic IMO).

Given what you’re looking for I would definitely add the Joseph Audio Perspective 2 to your list.  Best of luck. 

I have had some extensive auditions of the 228Bes. To my ears, even the similarly priced Børresen X3s are considerably superior. 

The cabinet noise was my biggest complaint with the entire Revel Performa/Be floorstander lineup. 
 

You might do well to add Joseph Audio and Acora to your list of contenders. The Acoras have exceptionally inert cabinets. 

No need to spend a ton of $$$ to get absolute excellence. Get yourself a pair of the totally incredible, but discontinued, Revel Salon 2 speakers.  However, you must bring lots of power and current to the table with the Salon 2’s and you will be in absolute audio bliss.  Happy listening.

+1 @kennymacc !  My salon 2's fill my 18 x 40 room with sweet full sound.

I upgraded from Studio 2s, which sounded great but needed more size to pressurize my room.  The Studios 2s are more in line with the size of the 228 BEs, but the Salon 2s are great.  They have fantastic soundstage and imaging, smooth highs, full midrange and deep bass.  Of course I still use a pair of subs.  With 7' foot ceilings, the Studio 2s may just do it fine. I also like the Joseph Audio.  I fatigued from listening to the Borresons.