Six DAC Comparison


I am in the middle of comparing the sound of six different DACs in my system. I own them all (I know weird) but one of them is still within a trial/return timeframe.

Not to share specific comparisons today, but a couple of observations so far are that first, they all definitely sound different from each other. On one hand, they all sound pretty good and play what is fed to them without significant flaws but on the other hand there are definite sonic differences that make it easy to understand how a person might like the sound of some of them while not liking others.

Second, raises the observation that most of them must be doing something to shape the sound in the manner the designer intended since one of the DACs, a Benchmark DAC3 HGA, was described by John Atkinson of Stereophile as providing "state-of-the-art measured performance." In the review, JA closed the measurements section by writing, "All I can say is "Wow!" I have also owned the Tambaqui (not in my current comparison), which also measured well ("The Mola Mola Tambaqui offers state-of-the-digital-art measured performance." - JA). The Benchmark reminds me sonically of the Tambaqui, both of which are excellent sounding DACs.

My point is that if the Benchmark is providing "state-of-the-art measured performance," then one could reasonably presume that the other five DACs, which sound different from the Benchmark, do not share similar ’state-of-the-art" measurements and are doing something to subtly or not so subtly alter the sound. Whether a person likes what they hear is a different issue.

mitch2

@mitch2 phenomenal insight into these DACs. Appreciate your effort. 

Anyone using the Mojo Mystique know what USB receiver it uses ? I run an optimized Windows platform on my diy server and need Windows driver. Mojo mentions to download the driver from JL Sounds website but there are different versions of the driver available. Since Mojo mentions JL Sounds, it must be using the USB to I2S bridge internally which is an excellent USB receiver used in Lampizator DACs I used to own at some point.

Many DAC designers optimizes one input over the other - some sounds better over AES/SPDIF, while others take a great deal of effort and care in designing a better USB input with high speed isolators, separate low jitter clocks, etc.

I think I read somewhere before that Mojo prefers AES/SPDIF input over USB but it would be interesting to know from actual users how the USB in Mystique compares to AES/SPDIF.

 

 

@debjit_g -Below is a quote from this review article.

“Along with all the premium parts mentioned above, the X SE employs JL Sounds’s USB–to–I2S input module. In macOS’s Audio MIDI Setup, it was nice to see the unit listed as “JLsounds Hi-Rez Audio 2.0”.”

 

Anyone using the Mojo Mystique know what USB receiver it uses ?

According to Benjamin, "we are using one of the most common XMOS USB input receivers."

@zmann007 - you are correct about the XMOS receiver chip, although JLsounds is apparently still involved wrt drivers for Windows.  I used to see JLsounds come up when I opened mysonicorbiter but since I now run the USB into a DDC and then use S/PDIF or AES/EBU into my DACs, I don't see that anymore.  If important to @debjit_g then I suggest he emails Benjamin with any questions.

This below is from the X owner's manual and seems consistent with other information on the website.

USB Input

Our USB input uses a high-performance XMOS receiver chip, is galvanically isolated, asynchronous, and has ultralow-noise femto clocking. To completely isolate the digital and analog power supplies on the Mystique X our USB input module has it’s own secondary on the power transformer, it’s own Silicon Carbide zero-recovery Schottky diode rectification, and uses two Belleson SPX ultralow-noise ultrahigh-dynamic discrete regulators, one for input and one for output.

Always power up the Mystique X before booting up your music server or streamer.  Unlike many DACs, the Mystique X uses no dirty USB buss power. For this reason the Mystique X must be powered on before booting any music server or streamer so that the XMOS USB receiver chip is powered on and can be recognized. Because of the 100% isolation and uncompromising performance of the power supplies and the ultralow-noise femto clocking used in our Mystique X, the USB input module performs better than most USB reclockers and regenerators. According to our customers, most of these “magic” USB boxes will degrade rather than improve performance.

Drivers for the USB input module are included in Apple OS X and Linux. If your server or streamer is Windows based the driver must be downloaded:

http://jlsounds.com/drivers.html

Our USB input module will show up in your player software as “Mystique.” In player software that works with video as well as audio there will be more than one option with the name “Mystique.” Select the option for “Front Speakers.” USB Lift We include a USB Lift on the rear of Mystique X which removes 100% of the parasitic power supply drain from the USB input module and removes all internal clocking noise from inside of the chassis. When facing the rear of the chassis, slide the switch to the right to lift USB. One reason many companies recommend single-ended RCA coaxial AES or balanced XLRAES digital inputs is that they isolate DACs from computer and clocking noise.

 

@debjit_g 

I'm using the most current USB driver.  For Windows it doesn't show up as Mystique but works just fine.  I've also tried an older driver which sounded the same so I reverted back figuring they must have a newer version for a reason.

Not a lot of differences between USB AES and SPIDF that I can tell.  USB might be slightly darker but I feel that could be more about the different sources PC vs PI2AES than the inputs