the saga finding enough working survivor Allison acoustics speakers ! for 11.2 HT system


gee i just can’t win ! i am always looking for a good deal on some Allison speakers and i had found a guy selling some allison LC110 speakers on CL i ask for photos. gosh they look perfect ! he only wants $50 ! i agree of course i offer to pay for packing them up i ask him if he wants extra $ to pack them he says nothing so i just send him $50

he gets totally PO and tells me "what happened to packing $ "?says "returning your $ and parting them out on e bay! "

have not seen the $ refused returned yet ,

i apologize for the misunderstanding in messages txt try to leave voice message and send an additional $50 "for packing "and free shipping label i hear ....................................................................... nothing ! 🥲

well i’m safe pay pal for goods and services though it can take 30 days to get $ back!

just could not believe he would get so bent out of shape over such a little thing !

UPDATE

HEARD FR HIM I SENT MO $ APARENTLY HE NEEDED / WANTED mo $ TO GET MORE PACKING MATERIALS ? SO FAR IT IS $50 FOR SPEAKERS AND $75 FOR the packing materials ! 🙂

Well, good news they are on the way should arrive tues eve, ! apparently he is fanatical about packing doing it right ! i always try to obey USPS regs padding, doubled boxed , padding between boxes .

sad even tho well packed one of the tweeters got damaged in shipping 🥲 sucks ! 🥲

he had the grille against a piece of foam and it pushed on the grille and the grille pushed in the allison convex dome now the irreplaceable tweeter is junk ! should have supported the speaker around the sides !

i cut a u shape out of the foam to show him what MIGHT have worked to protect the tweeter cone the ALLISON convex cone tweeters and mids are VERY easy to damage and unobtainium !

Many models had metal protective grilles on them the grilles on these area very stiff screen material but it damaged the cone. it cannot be repaired ,

did not help  UPS driver  dropped the box a foot onto the porch ! jerks!
( what can you expect for the $100K per year drivers get ! YES really ! ) 

I will get my $ back for speakers $54 packing $75 and shipping $35
lesson is try to discern what you might have done or said that annoyed someone ( nothing in this case apparently ! ) noneless, we apologised ,were humble and we finished the buisiness we initiated ! sad the tweeter was damaged beyond repair tho !sadMay be an image of record player and speakerMay be an image of speaker and saddle-stitched leatherMay be an image of textMay be an image of textMay be an image of speakerMay be an image of speaker

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Alan Maier

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Some sellers don’t ship due to the tax rules that report your sales to the IRS when using electronic payments. The threshold is $600 over the course of a year.

Jack Dale

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Alan Maier Bah, never heard that ! I do not think that is a reason . none enforces that really.

who do you think is reporting payments ? not pay pal which is bank accounts and credit cards and that is what most people use ! as it’s 100% safe for both parties ( friends and families )

Alan Maier

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I used to ship audio equipment all the time. The folks at UPS and FedEx knew me as a regular customer - I even had accounts with both of them. However the reporting threshold went from $20,000 and quite a number of transactions down to $600 and no minimum. PayPal, Venmo and others are forced to report annual transactions over $600 to the IRS now. Of course you can claim the sales were personal items, but you still need to at least explain the 1099 to the IRS. Since I am retired now and restore audio equipment as a hobby, I don’t need to track COGS and explain it to the IRS. I do local/cash

Jack Dale

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Alan Maier naw you exaggerate you do not have to explain anything and the IRS does nothing. please chill you are wrong . noone cites that as a reason. we would not buy fr you . I seems you are part of the problem ! just spamming my post what a guy ! you all can ignore this malarkey! 🤣

ONLY IF YOU HAVE A BUSINESS ACCOUNT !

"this rule is aimed at individuals who run a side hustle, small business or do part-time work and receive payments through a business account on third-party payment platforms. So if you don’t have a business account and you’re just sending money this won’t apply to you and your transactions won’t trigger a 1099-K form."

Alan Maier

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Jack Dale Well that is good news. I know people who occasionally sell on ebay who have been stopping at $600. It looks like there is a short term $5000 point now. I don’t mind shipping at all.

Jerry Emery

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Jack Dale actually PayPal is required to report it as they are considered a banking institution. Does anyone really read it? That I don’t know. But I can assure you that they regularly make that information available.

 

Jack Dale

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Jerry Emery well I researched it with the IRS and you don’t have to worry about it if it’s a personal account it only applies to business accounts so will you all please stop already.

Try a simple Google search geniuses

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Jack Dale

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Most say they just don’t want to be bothered boxing up and shipping so i have found good ways to make it painless as possible and offering to pay extra sometimes works too ! often now the cost of shipping $200 -300 + is more than we pay for old allison speakers !

 

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Jack Dale

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so glad we put to rest , buried the silly rumor folks were reluctant to ship due to a tax liability and if someone seems reluctant you can ASK and overcome that objection ! I know it will be question i will ask ! hard enough to buy vintage gear w/ out THIS silly issue! 🙂

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admired , envied and NEVER duplicated ! the Allison convex cone midrange and tweeter!

There is no modern tweeter capable of as wide dispersion as Allison's tweeter. It was innovative than, and it is innovative now as well, by both past and modern standards.

Wide dispersion from conventional modern and old tweeters is possible only with some complex waveguides//phase plugs/slots/lenses/reflectors.

search for the patent ? according to interview w/ Roy there is none !

SM: The transducers used in the Allison One looked proprietary. What were the design criteria for the dome tweeter, dome midrange and woofers?

RA: The midrange and tweeter units are not really domes in the usual sense. They are convex radiators, but each is driven by a voice coil at approximately half the distance from the centre to the suspension edge. Neither has a spider. The cone part of the tweeter, although convex overall, is curved inward and the outer edge is clamped through a very thin ring of latex foam to the mounting plate. Thus the radius of curvature of the cone changes as the voice coil moves, simulating a pulsating hemisphere that puts large amounts of high-frequency energy into the reverberant field all the way up to 20kHz. The midrange unit has a straight-sided cone with a flexible polyethylene edge suspension. It has extremely wide and uniform dispersion over its operating range… as does the tweeter.

Neither is proprietary inasmuch as they’re not protected by patents, but they are difficult and time-consuming to make properly, and they do project relatively far out from the front cabinet panel, which complicates the grille design. They have not been imitated, probably for those reasons.

Roy F. Allison Interview | Hi-Fi | Feature | AVHub

Thanks for the likes folks I'm constantly amazed when I'm looking for something and totally unexpected I run across some gem like I just found above so I'm able to copy paste it and share it with you all

As I recall it started because somebody was trying to say in another group that the Allison Twetter was not the best dispersion of any Tweeter ever and I knew that couldn't be true so here we go Google searching and look what turned up another erudite empirical concise and enjoyable! Explanation by Roy himself!

The technology of the internet and the freedom it gives us to find this kind of thing is just amazing isn't it?Allison AL-110/115 tweeter question - Allison - The Classic ...

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wowo got the ( Allison ) RA labs "mini monitors" fr a e bay ad for $70 and they look brand new never used and came in the original boxes too ! 🙂 seem similar to the AL105 ?May be an image of speakerMay be an image of bicycle, welcome mat and textMay be an image of speaker