Marantz SA-10 arriving Monday!

@jayctoy , I have a couple of test CDs (at least a couple) with the in phase/out of phase track on it. I don’t have a real good grasp of this stuff, but the more I think about it, I do not think that this is quite the same thing.

I believe that the test track we are talking about would identify if one speaker was hooked up red to + black to - and the other speaker was hooked up red to - and black to +.

However, I THINK that what the inverted/normal switch on the SA10 does would be to essentially change the signal from red to +/black to - on BOTH speakers to red to -/black to + on BOTH speakers. In other words REVERSING the way the phase was supposed to be set up. I THINK that this may be known as absolute phase, but I am not sure because as I typed previously, I do not have a tight grasp on this.

In other words, what I THINK is that although you could hook your speakers up red to - and black to + on BOTH speakers, the system would pass the in phase/out of phase test track and would not sound all over the place when they performed the "in phase" announcement on the CD. However, I THINK that by hooking up the speakers as I just described, that would still have them out of absolute phase. At least this is what I THINK.

On another audio forum I once asked a question about a preamp I was kind of interested in that I had read the specs on (I seem to remember it being a modded Cary SLP98) and I remember reading that it was wired internally with the phase reversed. (Once again, I THINK that this would have been absolute phase.) My question was why would a manufacturer intentionally do this, and I do not remember the answer, but the solution was suggested to be, when using that preamp, to hook BOTH speakers up red to -/black to +. And that is what I am THINKING happens by switching around the INVERTED/NORMAL switch on the SA10.

Referring back to my original question on this subject, does "the European model of the wiring the balanced outputs on the SA10" mean that it is out of phase with equipment with the balanced inputs wired to the "USA model" and therefore, ideally, should the phase be inverted?

Yes you are right Iamatthewj, the inverted phase is totally different.Hopefully Sharri will post ? 

blueranger

Good to see the SA-10 still in your System.

Happy Listening!

Has there been any internal changes to the Marantz SA-10 sound since it first launched in 2016 to now 2024? Anyone have any experience with refurbished SA 10 units?
My local dealer says a refurbished one is better because they've gone through the unit twice and don't wanna see it back again.
But refurbished SA 10 only has a one year warranty, so not sure about that?

@jayctoy, Thanks for your input on the SA 10 but I burn in the unit for about 50 hours and played CDs I know play clearly.   On the SA 10 and then on an HHB 850 burner I have.  The HHB is not as refined as the SA-10 but was listenable and smoother then the 10.  You get disillusioned when a $700 burner you can listen to as opposed to an SA-10 that was still fatiguing.  Talked to a local Marantz dealer two people from that dealer and they both agreed there's something wrong with the unit or it should at least be checked out.  Because out of the box the SA-10 should sound smooth.  Maybe thin or tight which is fine before broken in.  But the highs should be smooth.