Thiel Owners


Guys-

I just scored a sweet pair of CS 2.4SE loudspeakers. Anyone else currently or previously owned this model?
Owners of the CS 2.4 or CS 2.7 are free to chime in as well. Thiel are excellent w/ both tubed or solid-state gear!

Keep me posted & Happy Listening!
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Tom

Based on what I vision a solid core wire would be more coherent than a stranded cable. A solid core will have 1 single path vs a multitude of paths of many fine wires as a group..resulting in group delay? I sold and owned Dunlavy speakers. He had his own wire that he used and appeared to be multi strand like and offset like twin lead antenna wire.

Of course Dunlavy had patents on antenna design that were used in the military.

Again you make me think of the 48 strand 8 gauge Litz.inductors used on my ribbon Tweeter. Said to have a bandwidth of nearly 40k. Other styles are said to have much lower bandwidth which may be fine for the frequency range of any given woofer or midrange. But the counter of that is any wire touching another insulated wire wound or twisted in any geometry has to interact with the intimate wire next to it  I try to use the same group type of everything thing to maintain symmetry of sound and coherence..such as wire caps and inductors. Nice to hear a choir to speak with one great voice.

That's the goal for me and most others who visit here.

TomD

 

Yep - those 48 strands work out to 25awg good to 85kHz saturation / 2 for layup loss. All good except. My quibble is that a tweeter works around 5 watts for negligible current demand. Meanwhile that entire conductive mass must be charged and discharged at every cycle. A single pair of 25awg per leg would allow simple helical layup, carry the required current and produce greater, audible immediacy. You could read that immediacy as a shorter up-ramp of the onset transient with a cleaner initial onset and peak reversal. 

You're 'one great voice' is a good visual. My mantra is 'vivid solidity'. You know it when you hear it. The dozens of cables I've tested all sacrificed that vivid solidity enough that I felt compelled to take Thiel's original solution to the next level. Obviously that's a different place than the vast majority of brands have gone. Indeed some Thiel upgraders have gone to various stranded solutions and liked the outcome. I prefer and am perpetuating Thiel's pursuit.

tomthiel

Thank You for more Cable-Talk. In any system, Cabling is the best and forgotten component. I enjoyed more Thiel history as well. Keep up the excellent work.

 

Happy Listening!