BS meter is pegged!


I was reading about a music streamer from a latest Stereophile review and what was posted in the review had my BS meters pegged. I'm from the high tech industry with friends that work at Intel labs and friends that work for ARM computers and they haven't heard of some of these things that were posted. Maybe we can get clarification on these items so they don't sound so far fetched and the specifics posted in the review tainted the reviewers judgement IMO.

1) The review states this piece uses "a cpu that's highly prioritized for audio playback only ensuring highly optimized sound quality". I asked around if somebody is making a specific CPU for audio playback only. You know the Intel/AMD fabs that make cpu's make millions of them at a time, not 10-1000 custom cpus. Even when you look at the ARM cpus, none of them are built specifically for audio. There are millions of servers in the world that do database work for example that no cpu maker is building a specific cpu for database only applications. If there is a small company that are creating this kind of cpu, what kind of OS will run on it? This piece runs Roon so it has to be a somewhat generic cpu with a generic Linux OS running on it.

2) the review states: this unit "it plays live with no other processes running in parallel. as far as we know, unlike any other streamer on the market, this streamers cpu plays directly and live from the kernel without any processing or lag." Meter is pegged now. NO OS will run only 1 process at a time without hundreds of other system processes running in parallel or in the background. Using Unix/Linux, the OS is always in a flux state moving data around in its caches, in and out of memory, doing read a head, swapping, paging, etc... And these system processes are a good thing to keep the system stable and running efficiently. 

3) this piece uses "new and faster enhanced memory". Meter is pegged again. During the last 2 decades using Linux servers and over 2 decades before that using Sun and IBM UNIX servers, I have never had the option of buying enhanced memory. I made a couple of calls and asked if they had any enhanced memory that they could sell me and they had no clue what I was talking about. Everybody can get fast memory but "enhanced"?

4) "the whole device plays 1 song directly from RAM". All linux OSs do this, you cannot go from any cache or ssd/hdd directly out of the computer, the data has to be read into ram 1st.If the system is paging, this data might be deleted from RAM and then have to reread into RAM before sending to a dac. I used many large PCIE cache cards to hold large amounts of data (used it as a database cache) but that cached data had to be moved from this fast cache to ram before sending out to the dac.

Most of the time, audio reviewers get psyched up when they hear new acronyms or a magical cpu or enhanced memory that taints their judgement. For example, this reviewer at the end stated "never before have I reviewed a stand-alone streamer/server so accomplished in the hardware department". 

Maybe somebody could clarify some of this up for me/us in the audiophile community.

p05129

I was an X-50 flashed to > 1.3 BAR…. what a hoot…. dude

Tuck me in at the apex

but i agree, even my Trek / Bosch ebike has a “ turbo “ mode…. i always chuckle a bit when i engage it…trying to pass some surfer chick 

Carry on…

Porsche's approach to EVs is to carbon-copy internal-combustion cars. Low regen, digitized classic flat-six sounds piped in through the sound system, fake "Turbo" name, etc. I hate it, personally.

Yet the Taycan is an amazing car; and Porsche, like makers of $14,000 streamers and $2,000 Internet switches, has a clientele that doesn't like its food bowl moved. Nothing says "I got you" and "buy me" like "Porsche" and "Turbo" in the same sentence.

But Aurender and the like can't just say "Turbo", so instead they think they have to resort to the kind of nonsense that started this thread. Why can't they just let quality speak for itself? Bosch and Miele sell dishwashers for 2 or 3 times more than others and are worth every penny of it, all without ever making the slightest claim about quantum intelligence or cryogenically treated silverware baskets.

Note that Taiko is completely forthcoming about the fact that the Extreme is a $31,000 PC. And an great one at that, might I add.

Folks need to realize that most of the anti-audiophoolery that exists on forums is fueled primarily by outlandish claims of miraculous transformative sound quality improvements, made by manufacturers and parroted by most users, that everyone knows to be gross exaggerations (notice I didn't say "lies").

Why can't an audiophile just say "This power cable is a beautiful piece of kit, it's exquisitely made of very fine materials, and I feel it's well worth $5,000"? Everyone could get along with that and a lot of acrimony would dissipate. 

As always, my 2 ¢, ymmv, etc 🙂

 

@cleeds

This is from another discussion..

Spectral results--Each count was 12 hours. High resolution gamma spectroscopy using NIM’s. The NIST certified rate is 20.030 CPS for the Region of Interest (ROI). The region of interest is approximately 661.7 keV.

Results--As you can see, the filtered data is very close to the "True" count rate as per NIST certification. The filtration costs > $50,000 and cleans up the AC power before it powers the sensitive electronics. The crystal operates at - 200 degrees Celsius and is ultra sensitive to electronic noise.

Using a Nordost Power Cable made no statistically relevant difference as compared to a standard cable.

I am not sure what this means on the sonic front but if a Power Cable made NO difference on highly sensitive equipment, how could it make a difference on a CD transport.

 

      Counts per Second (CPS) (Unfiltered)   Counts per Second (CPS) (Filtered)   Counts per Second (CPS)(Unfiltered) (Stock)   Counts per Second (CPS) (Unfiltered)(Nordost)
                   
Count #1   20.645   20.121   20.643   20.693
Count #2   20.711   20.154   20.702   20.701
Count #3   20.689   20.101   20.698   20.692
Count #4   20.705   20.098   20.702   20.712

I think it’s stupid for somebody to gut an OS to save a few processes. Your iPhones have a cou that can do trillions of operations per second over multiple cores, 17 trillion or 35 trillion operations per second.

The nucleus OS has taken out all the diagnostic commands that allow you or the manufacturer to check to see what kind of problems you are having: like paging, high cpu loads, slow disk access, or any of the thousand things you can check. So if you are a nucleus user and the unit fails, you are screwed!

If you want to buy a tainted OS that has no security code, no diagnostic code, no OS processes that validates system health every second, go for it. If I’m running a server, I want an OS that gets updated with security fixes.